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cahn ([personal profile] cahn) wrote2023-02-06 02:49 pm
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Historical Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 41

Now, thanks to interesting podcasts, including characters from German history as a whole and also Byzantine history! (More on this later.)
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Re: Danish kings and their favorites: Moltke's memoirs

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2023-02-24 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think Lady Mary is still in England! Didn't she leave between the first and the second Algarotti trip to London, in the expectation of reuniting with him in Italy etc.?

Oh, right you are! She left in July. How could I forget?

Do you think she'd have come back if he had a permanent job in England thanks to Hervey, though? At the time she discovered he wasn't in Italy, he was roaming around Europe homeless; if she decided they'd just gotten their messages mixed, she might have gone back home.

Or not! She was honestly better off in Italy far away from him, imo.

Furtherly given the London attractions, which, hey, include favourite dish Andrew Mitchell, I think it's even more likely Algarotti will wait until the second Silesian War is over

Yes, I like your timeline!

And yes, I know Philip V. of Spain's wives were at the start teenage girls who could and did manage a depressive unstable royal husband, winning his love to boot, but I dare say those are the exceptions from the rule.

Agreed, and I think that worked because they were in the specific position that Moltke would later play for Frederik: being 24/7 emotional support while interfacing between the sick king and the nobles. Both of the wives, I believe, and maybe especially Isabella Farnese, had to do what looks like far more 24/7 support (as well as sex) for Philip than Moltke had to do most of the time for Frederik. Frederik seems to have been rather less incapacitated than Philip, who in turn seems to have been less incapacitated than GG. Who, though, came to power at a much older age than Frederik even lived to, so if you compare reign to reign, Frederik got more done; if you compare life to life, GG might have been in a better position to not drink himself to death if he'd inherited at age 20.

Oh, me too. And that in rl, Lady Hervey was the one who had to send it after him.

YES!