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mildred_of_midgard ([personal profile] mildred_of_midgard) wrote in [personal profile] cahn 2023-01-21 01:43 pm (UTC)

Re: French gossipy sensationalism

Though that biographer also sounds like a sexist ass.

He so is! The 2005 date and the Spanheim quote made me initially optimistic, but I'm getting a super conservative vibe from this author, and not just from this. Meh.

Lol at the knight of Lorraine! Google translate, always ready to entertain.

Hang on, shouldn't he be already out of the picture if the Chevalier is around?

Wikipedia indicates he was banished in 1662 and died in 1673, and of course Eugene was only born in 1663, so they definitely didn't overlap! The author seems to be collapsing Philippe's entire life story into a single period, thus adding errors of fact to his problematic opinions.

Was he working for the Great Elector or for F1?

Both, but Eugene leaves France in 1683, and the Great Elector lived until 1688, so at the time of this quote, he was working for the Elector.

Trivia: Per Wikipedia, "In 1702, he went on his final diplomatic mission, as the first Prussian ambassador to England. He died in London in 1710 and was buried in Westminster Abbey."

Anyway, raping, castrating and killing a guy and torturing women is quite different from organizing consensual m/m orgies, so I hope that it either didn't happen this way or that young Eugene did not participate.

I sincerely hope not!

These were the first homosexual characters I encountered in fiction at age 9 or so, and I don't think I encountered any sympathetically written gay characters - in historical or centemporary fiction - until when I was 13 and read The Mists of Avalon

I had a very sheltered (and prudish) youth, so the gayness in The Mists of Avalon went Whooosh! right over my head at age 14. At that age, I think I didn't even know what homosexuality was. I don't think I encountered sympathetic gay characters that registered on my radar until I was about 16/17. Harry Potter fanfic on FFN was not only my introduction to homosexuality, but responsible for most of my sexual education at all! :)

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