Yep! I wasn't clear, but under step 1, I was collapsing everything included in "the usual method for attempting to solve the problem/learn the material," because I wasn't trying to suggest a revision for that method, just the part that came after it.
most brains (idk about yours, as we've talked a lot before about your brain working in nonstandard ways in ways that may intersect with this) work in such a way that learning through doing the problem when possible, even with hints or some mentored help, is way, way more efficient than not knowing how to do the problem and then reading the solution
If we're talking about math problems specifically, yes. If we're talking about learning in general, it depends on the skill being acquired.
learning through doing the problem when possible, even with hints or some mentored help, is way, way more efficient than not knowing how to do the problem and then reading the solution and then getting another problem.
Yes, what I meant was, after you've gone as far as you can without having the solution (using the usual method), instead of then submitting your assignment to be judged by someone else (which is the part that is stressful and in my opinion, less efficient for learning because of the longer feedback loop), you get unblocked on going further in a shorter amount of time with less stress.
I'm glad she's getting practice with the collaborative problem-solving method! It sounds like really what she needs is help with the emotional aspects of feedback (which I have many opinions on, am holding off on a full reply on that topic because I found I was composing my opinions in my head instead of sleping, which is No Good. ;))
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most brains (idk about yours, as we've talked a lot before about your brain working in nonstandard ways in ways that may intersect with this) work in such a way that learning through doing the problem when possible, even with hints or some mentored help, is way, way more efficient than not knowing how to do the problem and then reading the solution
If we're talking about math problems specifically, yes. If we're talking about learning in general, it depends on the skill being acquired.
learning through doing the problem when possible, even with hints or some mentored help, is way, way more efficient than not knowing how to do the problem and then reading the solution and then getting another problem.
Yes, what I meant was, after you've gone as far as you can without having the solution (using the usual method), instead of then submitting your assignment to be judged by someone else (which is the part that is stressful and in my opinion, less efficient for learning because of the longer feedback loop), you get unblocked on going further in a shorter amount of time with less stress.
I'm glad she's getting practice with the collaborative problem-solving method! It sounds like really what she needs is help with the emotional aspects of feedback (which I have many opinions on, am holding off on a full reply on that topic because I found I was composing my opinions in my head instead of sleping, which is No Good. ;))