Heee. Why did she choose to go to that time in particular? Was she just itching to see if it could've worked if they went on from Derby?
Ooh, that's a good question that I no longer remember the answer to, 20+ years later.
...Okay, I rummaged around in my memory while washing dishes just now, and I think she was chasing another time traveler, the one who actually invented the time machine, and trying to forestall them from--something, I no longer remember.
And then I think she winged it once she was on the ground in 1745 Scotland with no way back to the future. There was definitely a second time-traveler as the antagonist, though, and they had numerous encounters over the years in the 18th century, while she was on her quest for world dominion.
Wow, past self, lolz. I researched a lot of things, but realism in my protagonist was not one of them! (Come to think of it, I think pure realism would have required my protagonist to be the antagonist and vice versa. See also my love for terrible people as long as they're safely remote, see also how I got into Frederick the Great. :P)
ETA: In my past self's defense, the Doylist reason for why my protagonist went to join the '45 is that how I discovered the 18th century and the Jacobites in the first place, was a Star Trek novel. In that novel, Scotty travels from the twenty-third century back to 1745 and joins Bonnie Prince Charlie (whom I had never before heard of). Four weeks and several avidly consumed encyclopedia entries later, I was writing my own novel with the same "time traveling from the twenty-third century back to 1745 and joining BPC" premise, and a very different outcome. :P
I can write up some stuff about the more well-known ones, too, if there's interest (Margaret Ogilvy, "Colonel" Anne Mackintosh, Lady Lude, etc).
There is always interest in salon!
Oh, speaking of memory-rummaging, I've been rummaging in the last few days about Charles' visit to England, given all the reliable-looking sources that have turned up. I think *maybe* my past self conflated "don't believe the legend that he was at G3's 1760 coronation" with "don't believe the legend that he visited England again in the 1750s and converted to Anglicanism." But I definitely got it stuck in my head that he never set foot on the island after leaving. (Which made sense to me, given the risks and the obstacles!)
Star Trek would not have been my guess as to how you got into Jacobite stuff, heh.
See also my love for terrible people as long as they're safely remote, see also how I got into Frederick the Great. :P
Whereas I love stories where people are torn between different loyalties, have to choose between their duty and their love, etc. I think you can see the appeal of writing fic set in the '45 to me. : D
All right, I will write up a bit more about the famous Jacobite women when I can. I am now reading a Ph D thesis on Jacobite women and have discovered a very cool woman I didn't know about! More to come.
Also re: Jenny Cameron, if you believe the anti-Jacobite propaganda, she slept around in a French nunnery and also seduced her brother...
how I discovered the 18th century and the Jacobites in the first place, was a Star Trek novel. In that novel, Scotty travels from the twenty-third century back to 1745 and joins Bonnie Prince Charlie (whom I had never before heard of).
Oh HUH. Which one? I thought I'd read almost all of them, but I don't remember anything like that. Unless it was one of the later ones -- I read all the ones I could get my hands on up until, hm, probably college or so, and then I didn't read them any more unless they were written by Diane Duane.
Home is the Hunter! The entire story of me discovering first the Jacobites and then, as a direct result, Fritz, is told here, in excruciating detail.
ETA: The internet tells me it was published in 1990, which means it should have been out when you were reading ST books. Also, haha, I also read all the ones I could get my hands on up until I started college, and then stopped reading them, with only a few scattered exceptions.
The book had several plotlines, only one of which was Scotty, which may be why you don't remember it. That's just the one plotline my brain decided to latch onto (with results ultimately including today's salon!).
Oops, forgot to reply to this: Oh, speaking of memory-rummaging, I've been rummaging in the last few days about Charles' visit to England, given all the reliable-looking sources that have turned up. I think *maybe* my past self conflated "don't believe the legend that he was at G3's 1760 coronation" with "don't believe the legend that he visited England again in the 1750s and converted to Anglicanism."
Ah, okay, that explains it! I'd never even heard the claim that he was at G3:s coronation. Well, it's never a bad thing to hunt down the primary sources anyway...
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Ooh, that's a good question that I no longer remember the answer to, 20+ years later.
...Okay, I rummaged around in my memory while washing dishes just now, and I think she was chasing another time traveler, the one who actually invented the time machine, and trying to forestall them from--something, I no longer remember.
And then I think she winged it once she was on the ground in 1745 Scotland with no way back to the future. There was definitely a second time-traveler as the antagonist, though, and they had numerous encounters over the years in the 18th century, while she was on her quest for world dominion.
Wow, past self, lolz. I researched a lot of things, but realism in my protagonist was not one of them! (Come to think of it, I think pure realism would have required my protagonist to be the antagonist and vice versa. See also my love for terrible people as long as they're safely remote, see also how I got into Frederick the Great. :P)
ETA: In my past self's defense, the Doylist reason for why my protagonist went to join the '45 is that how I discovered the 18th century and the Jacobites in the first place, was a Star Trek novel. In that novel, Scotty travels from the twenty-third century back to 1745 and joins Bonnie Prince Charlie (whom I had never before heard of). Four weeks and several avidly consumed encyclopedia entries later, I was writing my own novel with the same "time traveling from the twenty-third century back to 1745 and joining BPC" premise, and a very different outcome. :P
I can write up some stuff about the more well-known ones, too, if there's interest (Margaret Ogilvy, "Colonel" Anne Mackintosh, Lady Lude, etc).
There is always interest in salon!
Oh, speaking of memory-rummaging, I've been rummaging in the last few days about Charles' visit to England, given all the reliable-looking sources that have turned up. I think *maybe* my past self conflated "don't believe the legend that he was at G3's 1760 coronation" with "don't believe the legend that he visited England again in the 1750s and converted to Anglicanism." But I definitely got it stuck in my head that he never set foot on the island after leaving. (Which made sense to me, given the risks and the obstacles!)
Re: Female Jacobites
See also my love for terrible people as long as they're safely remote, see also how I got into Frederick the Great. :P
Whereas I love stories where people are torn between different loyalties, have to choose between their duty and their love, etc. I think you can see the appeal of writing fic set in the '45 to me. : D
All right, I will write up a bit more about the famous Jacobite women when I can. I am now reading a Ph D thesis on Jacobite women and have discovered a very cool woman I didn't know about! More to come.
Also re: Jenny Cameron, if you believe the anti-Jacobite propaganda, she slept around in a French nunnery and also seduced her brother...
Re: Female Jacobites
I... kind of regret that the propaganda is propaganda and wish it were true! Because that sounds awesome.
Re: Female Jacobites
Oh HUH. Which one? I thought I'd read almost all of them, but I don't remember anything like that. Unless it was one of the later ones -- I read all the ones I could get my hands on up until, hm, probably college or so, and then I didn't read them any more unless they were written by Diane Duane.
Re: Female Jacobites
ETA: The internet tells me it was published in 1990, which means it should have been out when you were reading ST books. Also, haha, I also read all the ones I could get my hands on up until I started college, and then stopped reading them, with only a few scattered exceptions.
The book had several plotlines, only one of which was Scotty, which may be why you don't remember it. That's just the one plotline my brain decided to latch onto (with results ultimately including today's salon!).
Re: Female Jacobites
Ah, okay, that explains it! I'd never even heard the claim that he was at G3:s coronation. Well, it's never a bad thing to hunt down the primary sources anyway...