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cahn ([personal profile] cahn) wrote2021-11-06 07:29 am
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18th-Century Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 32

:) Still talking about Charles XII of Sweden / the Great Northern War and the Stuarts and the Jacobites, among other things!
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Re: Write-up of "The Jacobites", by Daniel Szechi (2019)

[personal profile] luzula 2021-11-22 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there's definitely something interesting in how political position shapes action and influences ideology.

What would the Levellers and Gerrard Winstanley have made of these Stuarts...!

Well, but they still aren't radical in the sense that they want to empower poor people and do away with economic inequality, like Winstanley wanted (if I understand him correctly--I have still to read that Christopher Hill book). But neither were the Whigs, of course.

There is that interesting hint about William Mackintosh of Borlum (a Jacobite commander in the '15, for others reading along) expressing sympathy for the Galloway Levellers in the 1720's, though. I should finish reading his book...

Nope, there isn't much about Wales as a separate region; some of the English Jacobites he mentions are actually from Wales, I think, so I guess he just subsumes Wales into England.
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Re: Write-up of "The Jacobites", by Daniel Szechi (2019)

[personal profile] regshoe 2021-11-23 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, but they still aren't radical in the sense that they want to empower poor people and do away with economic inequality, like Winstanley wanted

True!

Mackintosh of Borlum's fictional son as written by Naomi Mitchison is pretty sympathetic to the Quakers, isn't he—that's a potentially interesting thing (um, in Mitchison's imagination if not in real history), considering the seventeenth-century connections between the Quakers and the Levellers. Hmm, I want to read that book, though it looks as though it's still not available anywhere that allows download of the whole thing.