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cahn ([personal profile] cahn) wrote2021-11-06 07:29 am
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18th-Century Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 32

:) Still talking about Charles XII of Sweden / the Great Northern War and the Stuarts and the Jacobites, among other things!
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Re: Charles XII and the Jacobites

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-11-18 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, right, I remember this! I think it's in Horowski. Or someone else, but I remember reading it in German, and he's our hilarious tidbits guy.

(I may well have learned it in my Jacobite days*, but if so I forgot and had to relearn it in the last 2 years.)

* I did actually read a lot about the Jacobite+various weird societies/legends/occult connections, so it's quite likely I got this anecdote but forgot, since at the time I had no idea who Gustav III was.

Did he pay the money back, though?

According to Hatton, yes! The sum given to Sparre was promptly repaid at Charles' order as soon as he found out about it, and the money Görtz acquired privately was gradually paid back by the Swedish crown, with interest, until it was fully paid back in 1755.
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Re: Charles XII and the Jacobites

[personal profile] luzula 2021-11-19 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, good for C12, then!

And sorry for yet again skewing the subject towards Jacobites, ha ha. I really did appreciate learning about G1 and his wife!

(Btw, just read a further book on Jacobites, are you interested in me summing up the bits of it that were new to me and posting here? Might not be new to you, of course.)
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Re: Charles XII and the Jacobites

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-11-19 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Jacobites are just as on-topic as G1, no apologies! It's difficult to go off-topic in salon. Jacobites are even in [personal profile] cahn's description of what this post is all about! (I've been chuckling about how we had 30 consecutive Frederick the Great posts for over two years, then one "Frederick the Great and Other 18th-C Characters", and have quickly progressed to "18th-Century Characters, Including Frederick the Great.")

Yes, share all your Jacobite findings! Some might be new to me, but all will be new to [personal profile] cahn!