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mildred_of_midgard ([personal profile] mildred_of_midgard) wrote in [personal profile] cahn 2021-11-21 10:16 pm (UTC)

Re: Write-up of "The Jacobites", by Daniel Szechi (2019)

Me: "...are Jacobites the same as Jacobins?"

I always roll my eyes when I'm reading a history book and the author confuses them, which happens far more than it should.

The Jacobins are the radical republicans in the French revolution. *g*

And this is why I found it so fascinating when you said that the Irish managed to transition naturally from Jacobitism to Jacobinism, because, [personal profile] cahn, Jacobitism started life as support for the dispossessed Stuarts. The Stuarts being the guys whose political philosophy was "I am a monarch by God-given divine right, and no rabble known as Parliament has the right to gainsay that."

And then apparently you get the Stuarts having to make concessions in exile (this I had either not learned, or more likely, forgotten, because I was far more into this for the military history than political or diplomatic history at the time), and then you end up with the Jacobins, whose political philosophy is, "We don't need no stinkin' king!"

Robespierre was a Jacobin. The Jacobins were the Reign of Terror guys. This is not what I would have expected from a party that started as the supporters of James II, Mister Absolute Monarchy!

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