Frederick the Great and Other 18th-C Characters, Discussion Post 31

[cahn]

And in this post:

-luzula is going to tell us about the Jacobites and the '45!

-I'm going to finish reading Nancy Goldstone's book about Maria Theresia and (some of) her children Maria Christina, Maria Carolina, and Marie Antoinette, In the Shadow of the Empress, and selenak is going to tell us all the things wrong with the last four chapters (spoiler: in the first twenty chapters there have been many, MANY things wrong)!

-mildred_of_midgard is going to tell us about Charles XII of Sweden and the Great Northern War

(seriously, how did I get so lucky to have all these people Telling Me Things, this is AWESOME)

-oh, and also there will be Yuletide signups :D

Comments

Re: Swedish Genealogy and Succession Crises

[mildred_of_midgard]

. And then, of course, once Napoleon makes it to the top, he explicitly frames his territorial go getting in terms of France „liberating“ other countries via exporting the revolution‘s gains to them

Which predates Napoleon: the revolutionaries were already "liberating" other countries in the first half of the 1790s. It started with local protests in Alsace and Avignon to join with revolutionary France, and the leaders of the revolution decided that the "will of the people" trumped any treaties made decades ago by old regime monarchs with old regime monarchs. Then it quickly evolved to "If the people of other countries are too stupid to know they want freedom, we will have to 'liberate' them! Invade!"