I checked the Wilhelmine's travel website, and the introductory text does mention a travel diary (without quoting from it), which is footnoted to:
Burrell, Mary: Thoughts for Enthusiasts at Bayreuth. Collected in memory of 1882 and 1883. [With plates, including portraits, and maps.]. Chapter IV. Unpublished Journal "Voyage d'Italie" and sixty unpublished letters of the Margravine of Bayreuth to Frederick the Great, together with sixteen unpublished letters from the King to the Margravine, London 1882.
So, over to you, native speaker, to Ms. Burrell's publication.
I wish, but gah! This native speaker can't find an accessible copy. It looks like only a limited number of copies were printed, privately.
* No online copies I've turned up yet. * Nothing for purchase for less than $138. * No orderable Stabi copy, it looks like you have to be in the reading room. (You can order a digitized copy, it looks like, but at 0.40 euros per page, that will hit $138 quickly.)
Mind you, "Unpublished Journal 'Voyage d'Italie'" gives me deep concerns that the journal might have been published untranslated anyway. In which case, even if you manage to get reading room access someday, we'd be in the Des Champs situation of hoping the English-speaking author gave us a summary.
Anyway, I'll keep looking, and Felis can look too if they [pronouns?] have time and interest, because I only had a few minutes at lunch, but your Stabi may end up being our only (post-pandemic) hope, yet again! If you get reading room access and it turns out the journal is in French, and you can't safely scan the volume, if you can snap some pictures of the text with your camera, I'll see what I can do with getting the results translated.
Well, the catalogue notes say "English" for the language of the book, but it still might be only referring to the author/editor's language, with Wilhelmine's notes and the letters reprinted as a facsimile in the original French, because this particular copy can only be read in the Handschriftensaal, not in the Allgemeine Lesesaal (where you usually read all that's not handed out), and you need to apply to a special license to use the Handschriftensaal (i.e. prove you're an earnest researcher for this subject), which I don't have.
Maybe that's the reason why no one has been quoting from her Italian diary in the biographies - too difficult to track down, and you need to be up to French Rokoko handwriting?
Maybe that's the reason why no one has been quoting from her Italian diary in the biographies - too difficult to track down, and you need to be up to French Rokoko handwriting?
Oof, yes, that would explain a lot. Also, I took a closer look through WorldCat just now, and at least two of the entries list the language as French. So I think it really is the original, maybe a facsimile, maybe a transcription, but not a translation into English.
Okay, found another description: "185 pages: frontispiece (portrait) illustrations (including coats of arms) facsimiles (part folded); 32 cm. The letters of the Margravine and Frederick the Great are preserved in the state archives, the Journal in the Royal Library at Berlin."
It's possible the facsimiles are samples and the whole journal is transcribed, like Richter did with Fredersdorf (that volume also has folded facsimiles), but it could just be straight up facsimiles.
Ah, wait, found an even better description: "1891. No Edition Remarks. 185 pages. No dust jacket. Vellum boards. French text. Chapter IV of Thoughts for Enthusiasts at Bayreuth. Contains 10 black and white in text illustrations and 7 facsimiles throughout." Phew! Looks like Mrs. Burrell typed up the text. And yes, we now have confirmation that the main text is in French. Your "native speaker" hopes were foiled!
Okay, I've found a few copies in the US through WorldCat. I'm not terribly optimistic that any of them will be ILL-able, but I've gone ahead and placed a request through my local library. If not, well, our two options are to request a digitized copy from the Stabi, which at .40 euros a page and 185 pages is 74 euros, or order a copy online--currently $138, but I'll keep an eye out for a better price.
But yeah, I can see why no one is quoting from this book!
you need to apply to a special license to use the Handschriftensaal (i.e. prove you're an earnest researcher for this subject), which I don't have.
My first reaction was, "But, I mean, if you're not an earnest researcher on this subject, who is! :P" But then it turned out to be in French, so I think you reading in the Handschriftensaal is not our best bet any more. This looks like a job for a detective + librarian + algorithm writer. (If I were working 40 hours/week, $138 would not be a problem, but the thing is I'm only working 30 hours/week for the foreseeable future. Hmm. Am seriously considering reaching out to a company for which I do a bit of consulting now and again. :P)
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Re: Pöllnitz: Secret Keeper?
Burrell, Mary: Thoughts for Enthusiasts at Bayreuth. Collected in memory of 1882 and 1883. [With plates, including portraits, and maps.]. Chapter IV. Unpublished Journal "Voyage d'Italie" and sixty unpublished letters of the Margravine of Bayreuth to Frederick the Great, together with sixteen unpublished letters from the King to the Margravine, London 1882.
So, over to you, native speaker, to Ms. Burrell's publication.
Re: Pöllnitz: Secret Keeper?
* No online copies I've turned up yet.
* Nothing for purchase for less than $138.
* No orderable Stabi copy, it looks like you have to be in the reading room. (You can order a digitized copy, it looks like, but at 0.40 euros per page, that will hit $138 quickly.)
Mind you, "Unpublished Journal 'Voyage d'Italie'" gives me deep concerns that the journal might have been published untranslated anyway. In which case, even if you manage to get reading room access someday, we'd be in the Des Champs situation of hoping the English-speaking author gave us a summary.
Anyway, I'll keep looking, and Felis can look too if they [pronouns?] have time and interest, because I only had a few minutes at lunch, but your Stabi may end up being our only (post-pandemic) hope, yet again! If you get reading room access and it turns out the journal is in French, and you can't safely scan the volume, if you can snap some pictures of the text with your camera, I'll see what I can do with getting the results translated.
Re: Pöllnitz: Secret Keeper?
Maybe that's the reason why no one has been quoting from her Italian diary in the biographies - too difficult to track down, and you need to be up to French Rokoko handwriting?
The hunt for Wilhelmine's travel diary
Oof, yes, that would explain a lot. Also, I took a closer look through WorldCat just now, and at least two of the entries list the language as French. So I think it really is the original, maybe a facsimile, maybe a transcription, but not a translation into English.
Okay, found another description: "185 pages: frontispiece (portrait) illustrations (including coats of arms) facsimiles (part folded); 32 cm. The letters of the Margravine and Frederick the Great are preserved in the state archives, the Journal in the Royal Library at Berlin."
It's possible the facsimiles are samples and the whole journal is transcribed, like Richter did with Fredersdorf (that volume also has folded facsimiles), but it could just be straight up facsimiles.
Ah, wait, found an even better description: "1891. No Edition Remarks. 185 pages. No dust jacket. Vellum boards. French text. Chapter IV of Thoughts for Enthusiasts at Bayreuth. Contains 10 black and white in text illustrations and 7 facsimiles throughout." Phew! Looks like Mrs. Burrell typed up the text. And yes, we now have confirmation that the main text is in French. Your "native speaker" hopes were foiled!
Okay, I've found a few copies in the US through WorldCat. I'm not terribly optimistic that any of them will be ILL-able, but I've gone ahead and placed a request through my local library. If not, well, our two options are to request a digitized copy from the Stabi, which at .40 euros a page and 185 pages is 74 euros, or order a copy online--currently $138, but I'll keep an eye out for a better price.
But yeah, I can see why no one is quoting from this book!
you need to apply to a special license to use the Handschriftensaal (i.e. prove you're an earnest researcher for this subject), which I don't have.
My first reaction was, "But, I mean, if you're not an earnest researcher on this subject, who is! :P" But then it turned out to be in French, so I think you reading in the Handschriftensaal is not our best bet any more. This looks like a job for a detective + librarian + algorithm writer. (If I were working 40 hours/week, $138 would not be a problem, but the thing is I'm only working 30 hours/week for the foreseeable future. Hmm. Am seriously considering reaching out to a company for which I do a bit of consulting now and again. :P)
Re: The hunt for Wilhelmine's travel diary
Will keep it on my radar for if I find time to do some consulting and spend $138 on a book.
Re: The hunt for Wilhelmine's travel diary