Ooh, this is great, I was wondering about these ladies (and men :) )
Lacy's friendship with Joseph will go through a big crisis when the two military disasters - first the Bavarian War and then the Turkish-Russian one - demonstrate what happens if you adopt Fritz as your role model but don't have the same military talent to go with it.
Wait, I don't think I know about those! I feel like there is a story there I would like to hear :D
But he's present when Joseph dies, holding his hand, and had already been present to console Joseph when Joseph's only daughter died.
<3
Joseph doesn't dislike them exactly, he just has no interest in them.
hee!
Anyway, Eleonore wasn't a fan of Mimi but years and years later when Joseph was already dead and Leopold bit the dust, too, Mimi was the sole one of MT's children still left in Vienna and Eleonore found herself warming up to her for this reason, and they became amiable in their old age.
Aww, I like this. (I am a sucker for -- there's probably a word for this trope which I don't know, but the thing where people get older and mellow out and enmities mellow out too.)
Perhaps he minifests too great a consciousness of possessing extensive information; and he may be repreached likewise with frequently anticipating the answers of the personsn with whom he converses. A mixture of vanity and impetuoasity conduce to this defect.
Heh, I can... totally see that.
That despite emotional ups and downs this circle of friends, having established itself in the early 1770s, remained until Joseph's death in 1790s, as opposed to some members leaving or being exchanged for new favourites (as is common with other monarchs) the author thinks is connected to Joseph's emotional disposition, and the fact his know-it-all-ness, verbal sharpness, ramming down reforms people's throats and lacking the charm with MT - who had her own faults - had and used with people ensured that he was increasingly isolated from people willing to be friends, not sycophants, and/or whom he was able to trust. But these five ladies and two men remained.
*nods* That makes sense, and like mildred says, role models, ViennaJoe! But also it probably says something about his capacity for friendship and love (like Fritz too) that these remained (like in the quote you have above from Eleonore).
Re: The Charmed Circle
Lacy's friendship with Joseph will go through a big crisis when the two military disasters - first the Bavarian War and then the Turkish-Russian one - demonstrate what happens if you adopt Fritz as your role model but don't have the same military talent to go with it.
Wait, I don't think I know about those! I feel like there is a story there I would like to hear :D
But he's present when Joseph dies, holding his hand, and had already been present to console Joseph when Joseph's only daughter died.
<3
Joseph doesn't dislike them exactly, he just has no interest in them.
hee!
Anyway, Eleonore wasn't a fan of Mimi but years and years later when Joseph was already dead and Leopold bit the dust, too, Mimi was the sole one of MT's children still left in Vienna and Eleonore found herself warming up to her for this reason, and they became amiable in their old age.
Aww, I like this. (I am a sucker for -- there's probably a word for this trope which I don't know, but the thing where people get older and mellow out and enmities mellow out too.)
Perhaps he minifests too great a consciousness of possessing extensive information; and he may be repreached likewise with frequently anticipating the answers of the personsn with whom he converses. A mixture of vanity and impetuoasity conduce to this defect.
Heh, I can... totally see that.
That despite emotional ups and downs this circle of friends, having established itself in the early 1770s, remained until Joseph's death in 1790s, as opposed to some members leaving or being exchanged for new favourites (as is common with other monarchs) the author thinks is connected to Joseph's emotional disposition, and the fact his know-it-all-ness, verbal sharpness, ramming down reforms people's throats and lacking the charm with MT - who had her own faults - had and used with people ensured that he was increasingly isolated from people willing to be friends, not sycophants, and/or whom he was able to trust. But these five ladies and two men remained.
*nods* That makes sense, and like mildred says, role models, ViennaJoe! But also it probably says something about his capacity for friendship and love (like Fritz too) that these remained (like in the quote you have above from Eleonore).