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The other Jägerhof

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-03-20 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Not long ago, we found out that Fritz kept a pack of 40-50 whippets at the palace of Potsdam and at Jägerhof. Much entertainment was had in my imagination until [personal profile] felis confirmed my guess that this was the Jägerhof at Potsdam, not Berlin, and identified it with the Jägertor I had found.

Now, you all know me: I love checking out maps and getting a modern-day look at historical sites. (I spend a lot of time in street view, but will spare you that.)

Here is a map showing where Fritz's dogs were in relation to Sanssouci, and as I found when I was snapshotting this, the modern-day Voltaireweg! I know he had an apartment in town that he spent a lot of time in, both because he and Fritz were driving each other crazy and, at least according to Davidson, because there weren't enough women at Sanssouci for our heterosexual Voltaire's tastes. But I don't know where this apartment was or whether it has any relation to the Voltaireweg. I like, though, how you can view the Voltaireweg as leading toward Sanssouci or away from it. :)



[personal profile] cahn, I'm sorry about the lack of scales. :P From the Voltaireweg oval to the Sanssouci oval is 750 m or a 10-minute walk. Does that help?
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Re: The other Jägerhof

[personal profile] felis 2021-03-20 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know about an apartment in town other than his rooms in the Town Palace, but I do know that he lived in D'Argens' house for a while, which doesn't exist anymore but was to the south of this map section, at the Havel bay and next to the place where FW4 later built the Dampfmaschinenhaus to finally power the Sanssouci fountains (that one still exists). (The modern Voltaireweg looks like it might be right in the place where training maneuvers used to be held.)
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Re: The other Jägerhof

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-03-20 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
One more map! This one has the Marquis d'Argens house at Zeppelinstrasse 167 in the south; just north of it, a tiny circle representing the George Keith, Lord Marischal house (still standing) at Lennéstrasse 9, plus our Sanssouci (Fritz's house :P), Voltaireweg, pack of dogs house at Jägerhof, and Jacob-von-Gundling-straße!



And you wonder why I'm way behind on Rheinsberg write-ups. :P
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Re: The other Jägerhof

[personal profile] felis 2021-03-20 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
:D

Also on this map: Krongut Bornstedt, northwest of Sanssouci, which is where Gundling and De Catt were buried, among many others (church and graveyard are across the street from the Krongut). And the Town Palace was (and now is again) right below the word "Barberini" (the new museum) to the right.
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Re: The other Jägerhof

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-03-20 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Neat!

Barberini: Not our Barbarina/Barbarini, [personal profile] cahn, but an unrelated 17th century palace in Rome that the Potsdam Barberini palace was modeled on and named after in the 1770s. Though Wikipedia notes that Barbarina the dancer may have gotten mixed up in the popular imagination with the Roman palace as the reason for the name.
Edited 2021-03-21 00:11 (UTC)
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Re: The other Jägerhof

[personal profile] selenak 2021-03-20 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I like, though, how you can view the Voltaireweg as leading toward Sanssouci or away from it. :)

That is indeed very fitting. :) BTW, his German wiki entry says there is now a Jacob-von-Gundling-Street in Potsdam, can you find that as well?

(Also, since Morgenstern refers to him as "Paul Gundling", I guess Paul is the one of his first names he actually used, but street sign researches aren't as good as we salon folk are. *g*)

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Re: The other Jägerhof

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-03-20 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Found it, will screenshot and upload after my tax appointment in 3 minutes!
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Re: The other Jägerhof

[personal profile] selenak 2021-03-20 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! Till then, also from the wiki entry, this is Gundling's map of Brandenburg the Kurfürstentum:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Land-Charte_des_Churf%C3%BCrstenthums_Brandenburg_1724.jpg/1280px-Land-Charte_des_Churf%C3%BCrstenthums_Brandenburg_1724.jpg

ETA: Also I have added as requested all the Knobelsdorff data which Stade and Back thankfully added to their Knobelsdorff novel at the end, and the Gundling data from the books, and the Manteuffel data of the books. Phew.
Edited 2021-03-20 19:04 (UTC)
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Re: The other Jägerhof

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-03-20 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
My hero! I'll take care of getting it incorporated and formatted (eventually), but the important thing is that the info is now there for us to consult.

In return, have an updated map (and thank you for yours):



(Also, since Morgenstern refers to him as "Paul Gundling", I guess Paul is the one of his first names he actually used, but street sign researches aren't as good as we salon folk are. *g*)

*g* Street sign researchers should hire us salon folk as consultants!