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Re: Manger, Knobelsdorff - and Peter Keith!

[personal profile] selenak 2021-03-20 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
For Lehndorff and Jägershof, see my reply to Mildred below. Otherwise, awesome research is awesome! I really think it's very unlikely that we're dealing with Other Keith(s) here,as opposed to Peter meeting and befriending Knobelsdorff this way, which also, btw, explains why he got the Tiergarten job after Knobelsdorff's death in the first place - if this was all him, he'd be a natural successor.

Btw, I could see one explanation how Peter so relatively soon after his return from exile got on a team wo figure out what to do with the Tiergarten - as far as I know, the converting of a former royal hunting ground into a public park and then the landscaping of same had happened in England already, and one prominent example just in time for Peter to observe. To quote wiki on Hyde Park: The first coherent landscaping in Hyde Park began in 1726. It was undertaken by Charles Bridgeman for King George I, but following the king's death the following year, it continued with approval of his daughter-in-law, Queen Caroline. Work was undertaken under the supervision of Charles Withers, the Surveyor-General of Woods and Forests. The principal effect of the work was to sub-divide Hyde Park and create Kensington Gardens. The Serpentine was formed by damming the River Westbourne, which runs through the park from Kilburn towards the Thames. It is divided from the Long Water by a bridge designed by George Rennie in 1826.

The work was completed in 1733. The 2nd Viscount Weymouth was made Ranger of Hyde Park in 1739 and shortly after began digging the Serpentine lakes at Longleat.


So, until we find something out about Suhm's post-mortem son-in-law that sounds like he hung out with Knobelsdorff, Peter & Knobelsdorff bffness shall be canon. :)
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Re: Manger, Knobelsdorff - and Peter Keith!

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-03-20 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Otherwise, awesome research is awesome!

It is so awesome!

which also, btw, explains why he got the Tiergarten job after Knobelsdorff's death in the first place - if this was all him, he'd be a natural successor.

Exactly!

Neat finding on Hyde Park. I think Peter was only in England for a few months between 1726-1733 (he spent 3 years in Ireland shortly after his arrival in England, remember), but considering he later returned to London and socialized with people before leaving for Portugal, he might well have seen it and talked to the people responsible. (He spent very little of the 1730-1740 period in England proper, incidentally--only about 2 years.)

So, until we find something out about Suhm's post-mortem son-in-law that sounds like he hung out with Knobelsdorff, Peter & Knobelsdorff bffness shall be canon. :)

It's now canon for me! Until now, we had Peter as Knobelsdorff's Tiergarten successor and a Lt. Col. Keith that Knobelsdorff was friends, but that could have been like a Katte first cousin showing up as minister in Küstrin a year after Fritz becomes king: somebody qualified was available at the right time. But now that we have a Lt. Col. Keith being involved in the Tiergarten from 1742 (at least according to our 1840 Raumer), the coincidence is too much!

Bffness it is! And now we can add to our knowledge of Peter Keith.