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mildred_of_midgard ([personal profile] mildred_of_midgard) wrote in [personal profile] cahn 2021-03-20 06:52 pm (UTC)

Re: Torture and capital punishment in 18th Century Prussia

But I can tell [personal profile] cahn now that poor Lepsch had a go at the sheep courtesy to the pamphlet you uploaded. Well actually, I don't know which animal(s) he had a go at, but it wasn't humans. The giveaway is "viehische Vermischung" again,

I had already told [personal profile] cahn that, noting "Viehische Sünde," which is a term I learned from you. ;) But I was actually going to say to her that I don't know if it was a sheep or what. I was hoping the pamphlet would tell you!

Incidentally, since we're now two for two for "sodomy" used to mean bestiality in 18th century Prussia

So the pamphlet does use the term "sodomy", not just the modern author describing it? I didn't see it, but I refuse to scan the entire thing with its font and general readability issues, so for all I know it uses the term 20 times. :P

But Felis pointed out that "sodomy" is only used in the 1746 cabinet order's heading and might have been added by the 1894 publisher, which leaves us with the 1794 code, which is ambiguous in its phrasing, though Wikipedia says, "Unter Sodomie verstand man damals alles, was nicht den Koitus zwischen Mann und Frau darstellte." And Horowski says, "Für die Zeitgenossen war schon männliche Homosexualität keineswegs etwas klar Definiertes oder gar wie heute eine Identität, obwohl auf die vage mit ‹Sodomie› bezeichneten Aktivitäten."

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