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cahn ([personal profile] cahn) wrote2021-02-20 09:19 pm
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Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 24

Every post I can't believe this is still going on, and yet, here we are :D
selenak: (DandyLehndorff)

Re: Hertefelds

[personal profile] selenak 2021-02-25 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Good old Fontane! I bow to your brilliance in checking there.

Lehndorff by the way? Not impressed:

LOL. I must admit, it never fails to amuse me that there are two things you can rely on when reading Lehndorff:

a) sooner or later, Heinrich will be mentioned, and

b) If Lehndorff comes into contact with someone who theoretically could tell him interesting stories about Hans Herrmann von Katte, he will dislike this person.

I mean:
- cousin Ludolf: terrible husband to The One Who Got Away
- cousin Wartensleben: miser, sugar hoarder, pouncer on chambermaids when younger and spy when old
- Staatsminister von Katte: boo, hiss, evil redhead
- and now: Hertefeld, former regiment comrade, experienced the arrest first hand, has books from Katte: what a bore!

It's as if he's postumously determined to frustrate Mildred, verily. Lehndorff being Team Keith all the way might make up for it, though?
felis: (House renfair)

Re: Hertefelds

[personal profile] felis 2021-02-25 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw, I can't take the credit for that - I found the (grand)father's wiki page first, took an educated guess which of the three sons might be the one in question, and when I googled his full name, Fontane was basically the first thing that came up. But it was a nice reminder indeed that he put some research in when it comes to Brandenburg and its history.

Love your take-away from the Lehndorff quotes, hee.
mildred_of_midgard: (Default)

Re: Hertefelds

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-02-26 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
LOLSOB.

- cousin Ludolf: terrible husband to The One Who Got Away

I mean, judging by your Wust historian, he apparently was! In that she left Wust as soon as he died, took the remaining kid(s), and never looked back.

- cousin Wartensleben: miser, sugar hoarder, pouncer on chambermaids when younger and spy when old

Nitpick: this is another cousin-aged uncle, 3 years younger than Katte. Grandpa Wartensleben was *really* of the "go forth and multiply" persuasion, with 13 kids who made it to adulthood, with a 32-year spread between the first and last. Thus brother to the 6 most loved guy who was on the Strasbourg trip and a suspect for a Manteuffel informer.

It's as if he's postumously determined to frustrate Mildred, verily.

LEHNDORFF!! *shakes fist*

More seriously, I laughed when I read this. Admittedly I was a little distracted from reading on my phone while multitasking at work, but I hadn't actually noticed that this pattern was striking again! I'm touched that you were so alert on my behalf. ;)

Lehndorff being Team Keith all the way might make up for it, though?

You know, it kinda does. We know increasingly more and more about Katte (thanks largely to you!) and very little about Keith, and it *is* good to have Lehndorff's input. Especially the part about Keith being a Lehndorff's idea of a role model for young people; that means something coming from Lehndorff in his diary in a way that Formey's encomia don't.

So I am grateful for Lehndorff's different perspective.

Still! Lehndorff, it's possible to be Team Katte and Team Keith; look at me! (I even got Mobster AU author to ship them for me!)