Just think of everyone, from Grandma Sophie Charlotte to Fritz to Leopold Mozart through the 18th century fangirling and fanboying Fénelon's bestseller on how to be a good prince and good young man in general.
But Grandma Sophie Charlotte and Fritz were cool with people converting to Catholicism for the sake of a royal marriage! Most Protestants were! It takes FW-level piety to object to that, and Katte seems to have needed that argument in order to risk his neck helping get Fritz out of Prussia. Would Oliver Cromwell have traveled to Madrid to visit the Catholic who mentored him? :P
I think more convincing analogy is the two millennia of hardcore Christians who managed to venerate various pagans but would have died (or killed :P) rather than see anyone give up Christianity.
However, I find your arguments about the non-religious motives Katte might have had about how this is going to affect Fritz's future and his relations with his father very convincing. You have saved my fanfic! (I can ignore Katte's last-minute return to devout Protestantism, as it was triggered by events that don't happen in my AU, yay.)
he doesn't even have to be a hardcore Protestant, but a good friend to Fritz, to find this prospect deeply alarming, if it's any consolation to you.
It's extremely consoling, thank you. :)
well, here's another example of a childhood imprint of "this faith is vile" surviving far beyond believing in the other faith: good old Voltaire.
Yeah, and for all that Fritz had a Catholic church built, he obviously considered Catholicism way worse. So I talked myself into Katte not having to be hardcore Protestant before the very end on those grounds. And then you gave me even better pragmatic reasons, so yay.
While thinking about your reasons, I started having fic ideas, which is good, but I promptly clamped down on that line of thinking before it could develop any further. :P
"Wow, go figure that Protestant bigots are still worse than Catholic bigots. As can also be seen by the fact Protestant fundies are anti theatre!" (The last never fails to crack me up.)
If the Protestants had banned databases, I as a non-Christian database administrator would have strong feelings on the subject! :P Theater is serious business when you're a playwright.
Here's another aspect, though: how did Fritz feel when discovering that his lie had had such an impact on Katte (especially in combination with receiving the Punctae later)? Might this cause some hastily repressed resentment that later shows itself in the remark to Grumbkow re: Katte?
That's what I've been assuming this whole time. He had a number of reasons for resenting Katte, which I've never held against him, no matter that I don't blame Katte myself. (Much like how Wilhelmine and Fritz must have resented each other deep down but been unable to work that out in therapy.) It was a horrendous situation for everyone involved.
Re: Protestant Katte?
But Grandma Sophie Charlotte and Fritz were cool with people converting to Catholicism for the sake of a royal marriage! Most Protestants were! It takes FW-level piety to object to that, and Katte seems to have needed that argument in order to risk his neck helping get Fritz out of Prussia. Would Oliver Cromwell have traveled to Madrid to visit the Catholic who mentored him? :P
I think more convincing analogy is the two millennia of hardcore Christians who managed to venerate various pagans but would have died (or killed :P) rather than see anyone give up Christianity.
However, I find your arguments about the non-religious motives Katte might have had about how this is going to affect Fritz's future and his relations with his father very convincing. You have saved my fanfic! (I can ignore Katte's last-minute return to devout Protestantism, as it was triggered by events that don't happen in my AU, yay.)
he doesn't even have to be a hardcore Protestant, but a good friend to Fritz, to find this prospect deeply alarming, if it's any consolation to you.
It's extremely consoling, thank you. :)
well, here's another example of a childhood imprint of "this faith is vile" surviving far beyond believing in the other faith: good old Voltaire.
Yeah, and for all that Fritz had a Catholic church built, he obviously considered Catholicism way worse. So I talked myself into Katte not having to be hardcore Protestant before the very end on those grounds. And then you gave me even better pragmatic reasons, so yay.
While thinking about your reasons, I started having fic ideas, which is good, but I promptly clamped down on that line of thinking before it could develop any further. :P
"Wow, go figure that Protestant bigots are still worse than Catholic bigots. As can also be seen by the fact Protestant fundies are anti theatre!" (The last never fails to crack me up.)
If the Protestants had banned databases, I as a non-Christian database administrator would have strong feelings on the subject! :P Theater is serious business when you're a playwright.
Here's another aspect, though: how did Fritz feel when discovering that his lie had had such an impact on Katte (especially in combination with receiving the Punctae later)? Might this cause some hastily repressed resentment that later shows itself in the remark to Grumbkow re: Katte?
That's what I've been assuming this whole time. He had a number of reasons for resenting Katte, which I've never held against him, no matter that I don't blame Katte myself. (Much like how Wilhelmine and Fritz must have resented each other deep down but been unable to work that out in therapy.) It was a horrendous situation for everyone involved.