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Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 20
Yuletide signups so far:
3 requests for Frederician RPF, 2 offers
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(I am so curious as to who the third person is!)
3 requests for Frederician RPF, 2 offers
2 requests for Circle of Voltaire RPF, 3 offers !! :D :D
(I am so curious as to who the third person is!)
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It would be interesting to know where the hanging-painting ended up. I mean, does one just chuck it in the trash after taking it from the gallows? Does it have to be buried? :'D I have a book about executions somewhere (it's technically specific to Saxony, but overall information could be similar), maybe I should check what it says about hanging in effigy.
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I was wondering the same thing! Well, burying didn't occur to me, but burning did.
I have a book about executions somewhere (it's technically specific to Saxony, but overall information could be similar), maybe I should check what it says about hanging in effigy.
Ooh, please do!
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I checked the book I have, but it did not say anything about effigy-punishments. I did some google searching after that and found this paper that someone wrote on the topic, but since it apparently covers every kind of effigy-punishment from antiquity to the 19th century, I'm not sure the specific question would be answered.
I also tried the Handwörterbuch zur deutschen Rechtsgeschichte which lists a variety of effigy-related punishments, one of which being what I assume was done in Peter's case. It does not list what was done with the portraits, but it could be kind of interesting anyway. Awkward translation of law-German coming in:
"7. Name notice, deserter's sheet, painted bust on high war gallows was known in military criminal law from the 17th to the 19th century, not as a replacement for forfeited corporal punishments of the deserter but as a deterring honor punishment comparable to edictal citation"
The Original:
"7. Namensanschlag, Deserteursblech, gemaltes Brustbild am hohen Kriegsgalgen kannte das Militärstrafrecht vom 17. bis ins 19. Jh., jedoch nicht als Ersatz für verwirkte Leibesstrafen des Fahnenflüchtigen, sondern als abschreckende Ehrenstrafe vergleichbar der → Ediktalzitation"
My search continues. I really want to know this now :'D
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That's probably exactly what the commissioned painter did!
Actually, wait, wait, that reminds me. Peter's younger brother was stationed in Wesel a few months before the execution-in-effigy. I wonder if he got used as a model for general family resemblance, or at least had to serve as a consultant for what his brother looked like, before attending his execution.
D-:
Btw, that reminds me, are you familiar with the descriptions of Peter's appearance? From
Lehndorff...has this to say about his appearance: "He had an attractive face and an honest-looking physiognomy, such that you didn't notice his somewhat cross-eyed gaze, unlike in most cases of squints."
Friedrich Wilhelm, trying to get Peter arrested in London after the escape, gives out this description of the fugitive: "medium height, straight, thin, brown, a little pallid, and squint-eyed" (Preuss, vol 2 appendix, p. 157; translation Lavisse, p. 239).
Eulogy: He was above middle height [but middle height by FW's standards, remember :P], and his eyes were peculiar, but once you got used to it, it wasn't bothersome.
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I was not! I vaguely recall reading the Lehndorff one in a discussion post, but the others are new (and very practical!). I really like that they mention the height :D For some reason it's really interesting to me how tall historical people were.
Also that eulogy is quite something :'D "We're here to mourn our dear friend Peter Keith. He had a face you had to get used to, but it was fine after a while"