until I chanced to discover the person who had adroitly inserted it in to his brain for the occasion.
I take it she doesn't specify who this is? Because it can't exactly be Fritz, he and P(R)ussian Pete aren't communicating yet.
Also, devil's advocate: I'm not sure this has to be a Fritz quote? It could easily have been a saying going around. Googling turns up a few hits for a metaphorical use of "squeeze the orange and throw away the peel/rind." Admittedly all 20th and 21st century, but in very disparate genres, and I could see people coming up with it independently. Though I suppose it's possible Arthur Miller got it from Voltaire, and then everyone else got it from "Death of Salesman" (read this in school, had totally forgotten about the "You can't eat the orange and throw the peel away- a man is not a piece of fruit!" quote.)
Ah, wait, rephrasing to "throw the peel away," I get a late 19th century book of common-man proverbs/cliches. "Those who make so very much of you either mean to cheat you, or else are in need of you: when they have sucked the orange they will throw the peel away." John Ploughman's Talk, 1867, published in a religious magazine. Does not read like the author knows his Voltaire.
Hmm, looks like a move called The Sword of Gideon (1986) popularized the same analogy with lemons: A father cautions his son against the Israeli secret service. The father plucks a fresh lemon from the tree and squeezes it while the son is watching attentively. He then says to his son: ‘this is what they’re going to do to you. When they’re done with you, they will discard you just like this lemon’, he said, while throwing the fruit away, and I get quite a few hits for "squeezed lemon syndrome."
Could be Fritz, of course! Though, wouldn't Fritz's supposed quote and Peter's use of it be at odds with Peter's Fritz-worship? Or would he take the phrasing while disbelieving that Fritz would do such a thing? Or was his hero-worship compatible with Fritz being a great wit who squeezes the orange? Or did someone give him the quote without telling him it was attributed to Fritz? Fritz, after all, is not a great wit or even a writer of poetry or player of the flute! He likes to smoke and hunt, as we all know. :P
Which means the answer as to whether Peter actually said this to a young Dashkova, thereby using a quip attributed to his hero, is... maybe?
And, of course, there's always the "Dashkova invented it" option.
It would be interesting to find a version of this saying that predates, say, 1740, but so far I haven't turned any up.
Re: Return of the Orange Peel (in unexpected places)
I take it she doesn't specify who this is? Because it can't exactly be Fritz, he and P(R)ussian Pete aren't communicating yet.
Also, devil's advocate: I'm not sure this has to be a Fritz quote? It could easily have been a saying going around. Googling turns up a few hits for a metaphorical use of "squeeze the orange and throw away the peel/rind." Admittedly all 20th and 21st century, but in very disparate genres, and I could see people coming up with it independently. Though I suppose it's possible Arthur Miller got it from Voltaire, and then everyone else got it from "Death of Salesman" (read this in school, had totally forgotten about the "You can't eat the orange and throw the peel away- a man is not a piece of fruit!" quote.)
Ah, wait, rephrasing to "throw the peel away," I get a late 19th century book of common-man proverbs/cliches. "Those who make so very much of you either mean to cheat you, or else are in need of you: when they have sucked the orange they will throw the peel away." John Ploughman's Talk, 1867, published in a religious magazine. Does not read like the author knows his Voltaire.
Hmm, looks like a move called The Sword of Gideon (1986) popularized the same analogy with lemons: A father cautions his son against the Israeli secret service. The father plucks a fresh lemon from the tree and squeezes it while the son is watching attentively. He then says to his son: ‘this is what they’re going to do to you. When they’re done with you, they will discard you just like this lemon’, he said, while throwing the fruit away, and I get quite a few hits for "squeezed lemon syndrome."
Could be Fritz, of course! Though, wouldn't Fritz's supposed quote and Peter's use of it be at odds with Peter's Fritz-worship? Or would he take the phrasing while disbelieving that Fritz would do such a thing? Or was his hero-worship compatible with Fritz being a great wit who squeezes the orange? Or did someone give him the quote without telling him it was attributed to Fritz? Fritz, after all, is not a great wit or even a writer of poetry or player of the flute! He likes to smoke and hunt, as we all know. :P
Which means the answer as to whether Peter actually said this to a young Dashkova, thereby using a quip attributed to his hero, is... maybe?
And, of course, there's always the "Dashkova invented it" option.
It would be interesting to find a version of this saying that predates, say, 1740, but so far I haven't turned any up.