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Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 19
Yuletide nominations:
18th Century CE Federician RPF
Maria Theresia | Maria Theresa of Austria
Voltaire
Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Ernst Ahasverus von Lehndorff
Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen | Henry of Prussia (1726-1802)
Wilhelmine von Preußen | Wilhelmine of Prussia (1709-1758)
Anna Amalie von Preußen | Anna Amalia of Prussia (1723-1787)
Catherine II of Russia
Hans Hermann von Katte
Peter Karl Christoph von Keith
Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf
August Wilhelm von Preußen | Augustus William of Prussia (1722-1758)
Circle of Voltaire RPF
Emilie du Chatelet
Jeanne Antoinette Poisson (Madame de Pompadour)
John Hervey (1696-1743)
Marie Louise Mignot Denis
Lady Mary Wortley-Montagu
Pierre Louis Moreau de Maupertuis
Armand de Vignerot du Plessis de Richelieu (1696-1788)
Francesco Algarotti
18th Century CE Federician RPF
Maria Theresia | Maria Theresa of Austria
Voltaire
Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Ernst Ahasverus von Lehndorff
Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen | Henry of Prussia (1726-1802)
Wilhelmine von Preußen | Wilhelmine of Prussia (1709-1758)
Anna Amalie von Preußen | Anna Amalia of Prussia (1723-1787)
Catherine II of Russia
Hans Hermann von Katte
Peter Karl Christoph von Keith
Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf
August Wilhelm von Preußen | Augustus William of Prussia (1722-1758)
Circle of Voltaire RPF
Emilie du Chatelet
Jeanne Antoinette Poisson (Madame de Pompadour)
John Hervey (1696-1743)
Marie Louise Mignot Denis
Lady Mary Wortley-Montagu
Pierre Louis Moreau de Maupertuis
Armand de Vignerot du Plessis de Richelieu (1696-1788)
Francesco Algarotti
Re: Oster Wilhelmine - reply to 1730s
* Oster has the "don't get married just to get me out of prison" letter, AWWW. I still love the mutual self-sacrifice between these two. YOU TWO. <3
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* Oster on Wilhelmine bringing Marwitz to Bayreuth: Little did she know that this girl would one day ruin her marriage.
That's right, blame the woman.
Oh, yeah. Although it is pretty ironic.
Speaking of Fritz and Fredersdorf, as we head into Christmas 1732, Fritz had been visiting FW at Wusterhausen before Wilhelmine arrived! I had missed that and assumed it was the first visit in a while, and wrote accordingly. Oh well! Fanfic takes liberties with chronology.
Ha! I had the same reaction.
[personal profile] cahn, you missed the chance to include that scene. :P (Though historically, as far as I can tell, FW hadn't taken up painting yet. What is fic for if not for chronological liberties!)
OMG. That would have been HILARIOUS and I am deeply mourning the missed opportunity :D
the Sonsfeld who takes care of little Friederike while Wilhelmine is in Berlin is not Sonsine the much loved, but her inexperienced sister who's like, "Halp, a baby, what do?" Or at least so Wilhelmine claims in her letter to try to get money for a proper nurse--I hope that was partly a rhetorical device!
I know, right? Especially since she ended up taking care of the kid for a while! But kid seems to have survived :)
* Judging by the letters and not the memoirs, Fritz had already left for his regiment when the German comedian episode happened, because Wilhelmine reports to him on it.
THAT is one chronological liberty I will stand and die by! Besides, we were writing fanfic of her memoirs. :P
I knoooooow I was so saaaad about that :P Oh well, it makes better fic this way :P
* Fritz of Bayreuth: *loves his baby*
Fritz of Bayreuth: Please don't tell your sarcastic brother-in-law.
Wilhelmine to Fritz: Please tease my husband about this.
Okay, Wilhelmine?
(And yes,
Re: Oster Wilhelmine - reply to 1730s
That's what I thought! I was like, we're almost done with the book and she's still not married yet?? I mean, I was being hyperbolic, but still. :P
I LOVE that you and I had the same fic-related reactions!
OMG. That would have been HILARIOUS and I am deeply mourning the missed opportunity :D
I now have this mental image of your FW painting your Fredersdorf, it's GREEEEAT. :D
I hope that was partly a rhetorical device!
I know, right? Especially since she ended up taking care of the kid for a while!
Well, that's exactly why I hope it was exaggerated for effect! If the kid didn't end up in her care, it wouldn't matter.
Definitely emotional incest going on here.
So I just got to the part in W's memoirs where she's like, "My new husband's sister, Wilhelmine, was hoping to marry my brother, and it would have been awesome if they'd been well-suited to each other, but she was kind of awful, so no."
And I was like...symbolic double incest? Also, can you imagine if Fritz's wife was named Wilhelmine, our heads would explode from all the confusion. :P I confess I'm glad that one didn't work out. BAD ENOUGH that I kept reading "Wilhelmine and Friedrich" in Oster as the siblings.
Re: Oster Wilhelmine - reply to 1730s
Bayreuth Friedrich: I, too, am glad my sister did not marry the Great. I would have ended up dead on one of his battlefields for sure. As for name confusion, I will say that my mistress being called Wilhelmine Dorothea (von Marwitz) did make things easier in bed...
Re: Oster Wilhelmine - reply to 1730s
LOL forever.
And yes, I remember that Oster quote and thinking, yep, sounds like those two. "This lute will be your only rival" indeed.
Re: Oster Wilhelmine - reply to 1730s
OMG. That would have been HILARIOUS and I am deeply mourning the missed opportunity :D
We had an even better missed opportunity than I thought! I was reading Wilhlemine's memoirs today, and she's still in her 1732-1733 visit, and she refers to her father painting!
I demand an outtake! FW paints Fredersdorf!
Re: Oster Wilhelmine - reply to 1730s
Re: Oster Wilhelmine - reply to 1730s