selenak: (Wilhelmine und Folichon)
selenak ([personal profile] selenak) wrote in [personal profile] cahn 2020-10-14 10:39 am (UTC)

Re: Oster Wilhelmine readthrough

Fritz: WTF, Voltaire. I didn't get a copy until 1750!

Voltaire: First, the Duchess Marie Auguste was hot, just ask the Marquis D‘Argenson. Secondly, Würtemberg has a border with France, which is why I parked some of my money there, where neither you nor my sovereign could got your paws on it. I also made loans to the Duchess and her sons with huge interest on that occasion. All of which started by me permitting her to copy La Pucelle.

Johann Gottfried Groß: who also, as I recall Oster reports, was gleefully happy to note that clearly, his was the only German newspaper Fritz actually was reading. :)

Female Marwitz being pro-Austrian: well, not only was her husband Austrian but she did end up in Vienna once she had left Bayreuth, conducting a very successful salon there. Presumably she‘d calculated early on that there was no future back in Prussia being married to a Dad and Fritz chosen guy, and that as Maitresse en titre of Bayreuth Friedrich it wasn‘t in her interest to promote a policy strengthening the ties to the all mighty brother of her lover‘s wife, but rather the opposite. In addition to which Bayreuth really was surrounded by largely Catholic HRE principalities, except for Ansbach.

Also, lol at Wilhelmine starting out wanting an opera house like Fritz's and then, after the fallout, even after they've made up, deciding she wants one like the one in Vienna.

Well, the result would argue she made the right choice. *g*

And yes, Oster‘s good at keeping the balance between showing Wilhelmine and BayreuthFritz acting as princes of their era were supposed to and showing how this affected their subjects. (Hence also the readiness to believe the „that fire was totally a plan, just like Nero and Rome“ story.)

Now I see where Heinrich got it from!

Had not thought of this, but you‘re absolutely right. Well, one of this strengths as a general was noticing and studying efficient strategies. *g*

Ansbach brother in law: in addition to this, he was also yet another lousy husband I am reminded of Fritz‘ unexpectedly touching reaction in a letter to Heinrich when his Ansbach sister died: My dearest brother,
It is the heartbroken with pain that I write to you today. I have just learned of the death of our poor and unhappy sister in Ansbach. This comes back, my dear brother, to what I have been telling you lately, that what is left of our family is shaking up their sleeves. I have always thought of going to Ansbach to see my poor sister again; I never could find the moment. She was a very good and honest person, whose heart was full of integrity. I confess to you, my dear brother, that this distresses me so much, that I will put off another day to answer you.


Friederike Luise had once been a spirited girl whose cheeky telling FW that the food he gives his children is lousy triggered the occasion where he threw with the plates at Wilhelmine and Fritz; she was the first to get married, and by the time she died, she was an utterly depressed lonely woman hardly able to talk anymore.

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