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Frederick the Great, discussion post 16
We have slowed down a lot, but are still (sporadically) going! And somehow filled up the last post while I wasn't looking!
...I was asked to start a new thread so that STDs could be discussed. Really! :D
...I was asked to start a new thread so that STDs could be discussed. Really! :D
Re: Yuletide
I plan to request some prompts I'm particularly interested (see below) in but also leave my requests as open as possible while still allowing gaming by anyone who is writing. My current plan is to request a small number of characters but not Katte, so that anyone wanting to write Fritz/Katte will match on the shippers but not me, and anyone can easily game away from me. I'm thinking requesting Heinrich only, for example. But then also saying like I did last year that for treats I am totally happy with any character :)
In both cases the idea is for me to make it possible for any writer who... may be interested in writing about a variety of characters... to do that :D Because of this, I agree that not as many characters are needed!
The same holds for Enlightenment. I think we can get along without a few of these nominations -- all of Mildred's except for Lady Mary, and I think de Lambert could be replaced by Lady Mary, since de Lambert is only interesting to us in the context of Emilie. I make an exception for Lady Mary as (a) she seems like she might be interesting in her own right, not just in relation to Algarotti, and (b) if you end up reading her bio or letters, we might be more interested in requesting/writing her anyway :)
So, for Enlightenment, I propose
selenak: Émilie, Voltaire, Madame de Pompadour, Madame Denis
cahn: Richelieu, Maupertuis, Lady Mary, Algarotti.
For Frederician, IDK, can we get away with eight nominations, thus freeing up an additional fandom slot for one of us? I got the Wilhelmine fic of my dreams last year :D and I got an additional fic of awesomely dysfunctional!Wilhelmine in RMSE (I mean, of course this was my gift too :D ) so I'm OK not nominating her this year (although I'm still encouraging everyone to write about her!).
If I had to pick eight that both represented our interests, would allow you to write everything you wanted, and may have wider applicability to other requesters/writers than just the three of us:
Voltaire, MT, Sophie/Catherine, Heinrich
Fredersdorf, Fritz, Katte, Suhm
(By the way, I'm absolutely prompting "Fritz Gets Captured AU" and "crack AU where Heinrich has an arranged marriage to Sophie that results in them constantly plotting against each other but also still liking each other," anything else is additional gravy :D )
Also, mildred, were you by chance thinking of nominating Zenna Henderson? Because we could coordinate on that as well :P
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The same holds for Enlightenment. I think we can get along without a few of these nominations -- all of Mildred's except for Lady Mary, and I think de Lambert could be replaced by Lady Mary, since de Lambert is only interesting to us in the context of Emilie. I make an exception for Lady Mary as (a) she seems like she might be interesting in her own right, not just in relation to Algarotti, and (b) if you end up reading her bio or letters, we might be more interested in requesting/writing her anyway :)
Agree with all of this and was thinking the same thing. The Marquis is only interesting in terms of narrowing down possible Émilie stories, but Lady Mary could easily get her own story!
Agree we could go with 8 characters for the Enlightenment, but it hadn't occurred to me that we might only go with 8 Fritzian characters. Let me think about that.
See, I had been thinking about replacing Gregorij with my lowkey fave Peter Keith. And after thinking about it some more, if I do sign up, what I might do is request Katte, Keith, Fredersdorf, and Suhm, and specify "or".
I...actually wouldn't mind getting a story with one or more of them that didn't include Fritz. It's less likely to happen with Suhm, but I don't think I'd mind if it did, and god knows Peter's eulogy has all sorts of writable moments, and mob boss AU has spoiled me with THREE modern AUs with my beta ship Katte/Keith...so yeah, that line-up would be a way to ensure I either got a shippy fic as my assignment, or a fic with one of my favorite boyfriends, and not, say, Fritz and Amalie. (Which would be great! just not as an assignment.) And then for treats say, "Go wild." And as long as someone was willing to gamble that they wouldn't get assigned someone else who requested this Suhm guy who they have no idea who he is, they could offer all four with the intention of writing Katte.
This is in the extremely unlikely even that I sign up. But I still have *checks* 2 months to decide!
So, assuming I signed up, and you requested Heinrich, and I requested Katte, Keith, Suhm, and Fredersdorf as an "or", that leaves
Now, if I don't sign up (argh, I'm going to have to make at least a soft decision by nominations!), then we don't need to nominate Suhm or Keith. Katte...maybe, if it entices someone else to request Fritz/Katte? It is the OTP of the fandom at large. Anyway, if I decide I'm not signing up, I'm happy to nominate any additional characters anyone wants, like Lehndorff.
If I am signing up and we want to limit ourselves to 8 characters so as to free up a fandom slot for someone, I can give up Suhm (still my 2nd favorite boyfriend, but I feel Peter has more fic potential) and nominate Fritz, Katte, Keith, and Fredersdorf. Otherwise, if we're all three nominating Fritzian characters, I can nominate 4 boyfriends and someone else can take Fritz.
(By the way, I'm absolutely prompting "Fritz Gets Captured AU" and "crack AU where Heinrich has an arranged marriage to Sophie that results in them constantly plotting against each other but also still liking each other," anything else is additional gravy :D )
Oooh, the last one. *ponders* :D
Also, mildred, were you by chance thinking of nominating Zenna Henderson? Because we could coordinate on that as well :P
Alas. While it falls into the category of fandoms I still love, it falls neither into fandoms I can write, or fandoms that I wouldn't be disappointed if I got that instead of Fritz. My planned nominations:
Cryptonomicon: Rudy, Alan, Angelo
3rd century Roman emperors: Elagabalus, Diocletian, Maximian (if the mods allow me to group together early and late 3rd century emperors like this).
I'd request Rudy, Alan, and Angelo, and specify in my request that it's Rudy and Alan OR Rudy and Angelo for an assignment, and anything involving Rudy for a treat. And I'd offer all three.
I'd request Diocletian and Maximian, and offer Elagabalus, and I'm hesitating over offering Diocletian and Maximian. I have ideas for the latter, but I'd have to re-research, and I don't have really strong inspiration atm. But MAN I would die of happiness if someone wrote me Diocletian and Maximian.
And these are some rare fandoms: Diocletian and Maximian have 0 fics on AO3. Cryptonomicon has 2 fics, one of which is Rudy and Alan, the other is a different (and admittedly more major) character.
And in terms of 18th century Enlightenment, I'd probably request and offer Algarotti and Émilie, as an "or" in my request. I admit that since
Re: Yuletide
Of course it was! I'm glad you feel about it the same way I feel about "Katte lives" and "Suhm makes starry eyes at Fritz." :D
Re: Yuletide
Or Mimi the monkey!Man, if nominations and requests weren't so limited and weren't matching on AND instead of OR, I would so nominate and request Biche, Alcmene, and Mimi. :P As it is, it's like Grigorij: if anyone wants to write me dog and/or monkey fic, I will eat it right up, but I'm not going to use it to narrow my matches as either author or requester.
Re: Yuletide
Anyway, let us know in time whether you want to nominate but not officially join (though intending to beta
and treat) or whether you want to join, because coordination is key and we need to be clear who'll nominate which characters so no one overlaps. :)Re: Yuletide
:D High praise! I'm glad my arguments made sense to everyone.
To help with this, I'll translate the relevant passage from the "Day to day in the life of Fritz" book. Just not now. *g*
So, um, yesterday I went looking to see if that book had the aliases for the Netherlands visit, and as far as I can tell it doesn't, but what I wanted to say is that I kind of read the entire 4 pages of the Netherlands on my own, in that old-fashioned font, without help! I didn't get everything, and it definitely took a lot of concentration, but I feel like a person who read and understood those 4 pages!
But since I can only do that in small doses, very slowly, and without perfect mastery, an actual translation of the Strasbourg passage (which I actually glanced at last night but didn't pick my way through laboriously) would be well received. :) I just wanted to announce that tangible progress is being made, and one day I might actually be able to read entire blackletter font books!
Anyway, let us know in time whether you want to nominate but not officially join (though intending to beta and treat) or whether you want to join, because coordination is key and we need to be clear who'll nominate which characters so no one overlaps. :)
Anyone as organized as a Prussian general will definitely let you know in time. :) And, yes, I would definitely hope to treat if I didn't sign up.