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Frederick the Great, discussion post 16
We have slowed down a lot, but are still (sporadically) going! And somehow filled up the last post while I wasn't looking!
...I was asked to start a new thread so that STDs could be discussed. Really! :D
...I was asked to start a new thread so that STDs could be discussed. Really! :D
Fritz: The Disney version.
Well, why not, given what Disney did to the Hunchback of Notre Dame and The Little Mermaid, both truly tragic stories in the original. And those are just the animated movies.
Funny animal sidekick: Biche, of course. (Sorry, other dogs.) Biche arrives several years too early, historical speaking, but never mind history, it's Disney. Folichon can come, too. Katte probably has his own funny animal sidekick, a horse.
"I want" song: Fritz early on, wanting music, travel, literature and not as much chicanery as a Disney movie will allow to be shown.
The villain: Sorry, Grumbkow and Seckendorf. This is Disney, which means Fritz' bio dad can't be so awful that the tearful reconciliation doesn't work. Therefore, FW's worst actions (those that survive into Disney-dom, that is) are retconned to be your actions, on behalf of MT's Dad the Emperor Charles, who gets transformed into an ominous shadowy supervillain hardly seen and out to destroy Prussia. Grumbkow & Seckendorf do most of the on screen villainous action by manipulating:
The ambigous character: FW, who of course does not have Katte executed but realises the truth at the last moment so Katte can be saved from beheading and Fritz freed by a valiant team effort, since the executioner works for G & S. Cue tearful "I love you, son!" reconciliation and all the Hohenzollern hugging and exclaiming "family is everything!". In the tag scene, we'll see young Fritz declaring he'll deal with the Evil Austrian Empire behind it all in the sequel.
Villain death by falling from somewhere high: Grumbkow and Seckendorf, in a duel with Fritz and Katte in the grand action finale on the walls of Küstrin
Love story: Disney's first movie with an official gay couple, if made today/slightly into the future. If we're talking golden age Disney, they'll probably go for Fritz/Doris Ritter and Katte/Wilhelmine.
Big action sequence other than the finale: Fritz' almost escape, beefed up to a hair-raising escape riding sequence only stopped at the very last minute by Grumbkow shouting they have Katte.
Big Villain song: G-S-Emperor trio "No power but mine/That boy must die!"
Big dance sequence: the Prussian soldiers exercising gets transformed into something like the opening sequence of West Side Story. FW looks on with a beaming smile.
Re: Fritz: The Disney version.
I have to admit I'm now imagining the even more unhistorical version where Fritz's real dad is dead, and FW is the scheming uncle who gets thrown off a cliff and torn apart by hyenas at the end, just for my own personal satisfaction. But yours is much more like what Disney would actually put together!
I'm still laughing at Katte's sidekick horse.
Villain death by falling from somewhere high: Grumbkow and Seckendorf, in a duel with Fritz and Katte in the grand action finale on the walls of Küstrin
I'm in favor! They can land in the Oder and their bodies be carried far, far away.
Fritz + Katte forever.
Big dance sequence:
the Prussian soldiersPotsdam Giants! :D
ETA: Biche arrives several years too early, historical speaking
Worth pointing out that Fritz reused dog names! I don't know that he reused Biche specifically, but he definitely did Alcmene, and if the 19th century traveler who could still read the now weathered doggy gravestones is to be trusted, others as well.
Re: Fritz: The Disney version.
I am dying at Grumbkow and Seckendorf becoming the bad guys, because OF COURSE. And Emperor Charles as the supervillain is perfect!
MT: This is calumny!
Charles: Actually I think it's kinda cool. I really think I should get my own song though.
Villain death by falling from somewhere high: Grumbkow and Seckendorf, in a duel with Fritz and Katte in the grand action finale on the walls of Küstrin
LOLOLOLOLOL this is AWESOME
Big Villain song: G-S-Emperor trio "No power but mine/That boy must die!"
So I read this as "Gilbert and Sullivan" the first time and was envisioning something like the "I am so proud" trio in the Mikado, hahahaha! (That wouldn't of course quite fit with Disney -- I know exactly the kind of crashy Big Villain song you're talking about :D )
Re: Fritz: The Disney version.
Haha. You can probably tell from my prompt Lion King rewrite that I feel exactly the opposite way. Obviously I wish FW had acknowledged his wrongdoing in real life and saved Katte and been nicer to Fritz! But since he didn't, the only thing that feels cathartic to me is hating on FW. :P It's not rational! But when I first read the original write-up, I found myself thinking, "Would I rather have a story where Katte lives but the narration expects me to reconcile with FW, or one where Katte dies but I'm free to keep hating FW?" Really! :D
Re: Fritz: The Disney version.
Re: Fritz: The Disney version.
Me: Hating FW or saving Katte's life?--actually a tough call. :P