Remember when MacDonogh said Prussia got kicked out of the HRE? And we were skeptical, not least because Fritz later agreed to vote for Joseph as emperor, which presupposes Brandenburg/Prussia as a member state in the empire? Well, mystery solved, for reading Showalter gave me a date, which I incorporated into my google-fu to find this, aka the Reichsexekutionskrieg, which the HRE could declare on one of its member states, and did in the case of Prussia in January 1757.
To quote from Wikipedia, On 13 September 1756, the Emperor Francis I issued an advocate's mandate (mandata avocatoria) releasing imperial subjects from their oaths to the king of Prussia, Frederick II, and ordering them not to assist him in his illegal war. On 14 September, Francis requested the Imperial Diet sanction a Reichsexekution to restore peace to the empire...
On 17 January 1757, a Reichskrieg was declared against Prussia. A triple quota was called up for a Reichs-Exekutions-Armee. The representatives of the Prussian king were removed from imperial institutions, imperial postal service to Prussian territory was suspended and travel into and out of it was banned, although not trade (even in war materiel, which was only classed as contraband in 1760).
In February 1763, the Imperial Diet formally declared the Reichskrieg over and the Treaty of Hubertusburg restored the status quo ante bellum.
Now, if you want to summarize this as "Prussia kicked out of the HRE," that seems fair, but you need to specify that it was only for 6 years, so that they could make war on it, and that at the end, it was reincorporated. Otherwise, you leave the reader with the impression that Prussia was never again part of the HRE, which is just wrong, as the election of Joseph shows. Restoration of the status quo is important!
Besides, there's a reading of "releasing imperial subjects from their oaths to the king of Prussia, Frederick II" according to which Fritz personally got kicked out, and the rest of the Prussians were still considered imperial subjects. :P
Also, tangentially, apparently FS could sell war materiel to Prussia during the Silesian wars if he wanted to, lol. Whether he would want to, MT miniseries, is another matter...
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Prussia and the Holy Roman Empire
To quote from Wikipedia, On 13 September 1756, the Emperor Francis I issued an advocate's mandate (mandata avocatoria) releasing imperial subjects from their oaths to the king of Prussia, Frederick II, and ordering them not to assist him in his illegal war. On 14 September, Francis requested the Imperial Diet sanction a Reichsexekution to restore peace to the empire...
On 17 January 1757, a Reichskrieg was declared against Prussia. A triple quota was called up for a Reichs-Exekutions-Armee. The representatives of the Prussian king were removed from imperial institutions, imperial postal service to Prussian territory was suspended and travel into and out of it was banned, although not trade (even in war materiel, which was only classed as contraband in 1760).
In February 1763, the Imperial Diet formally declared the Reichskrieg over and the Treaty of Hubertusburg restored the status quo ante bellum.
Now, if you want to summarize this as "Prussia kicked out of the HRE," that seems fair, but you need to specify that it was only for 6 years, so that they could make war on it, and that at the end, it was reincorporated. Otherwise, you leave the reader with the impression that Prussia was never again part of the HRE, which is just wrong, as the election of Joseph shows. Restoration of the status quo is important!
Besides, there's a reading of "releasing imperial subjects from their oaths to the king of Prussia, Frederick II" according to which Fritz personally got kicked out, and the rest of the Prussians were still considered imperial subjects. :P
Also, tangentially, apparently FS could sell war materiel to Prussia during the Silesian wars if he wanted to, lol. Whether he would want to, MT miniseries, is another matter...
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