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cahn ([personal profile] cahn) wrote2020-03-07 07:17 am
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Frederick the Great discussion post 13

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Re: Katte - Species Facti 2

[personal profile] selenak 2020-03-22 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
So yes! FW-punching Frau von Pannewitz was married to a guy in the same regiment as Katte, who was a colonel at the time, and since Katte is asking Colonel von Pannewitz about his leave, it's the same guy.

OMG, FW got punched by the wife of one of Katte's commanding officers! Not long after Katte's execution! While FW may or may not be getting any with his wife after her favorite son's imprisonment.


Woohoo! Detective Mildred, we nailed another one. And I can't see how Johanna von Pannewitz could have avoided knowing Katte, between her husband being his superior in the regiment and Katte, as per Wilhelmine, showing up at every concert in (SD's palace) Monbijou because this was for Berlin music lovers the only chance to hear a (non-private) one. So I think we're on reasonably good ground to assume she knew and liked him. And had undoubtedly her own opinion on royal justice when it came to his execution. (And of the King being fully of sympathy for the "promising young man" in December.)

Mind you, the context of his groping attempt was presumably the only one where a subject had a chance to get away with putting a hand on the King, let alone punching him. Any other context and there's been bad consequences for her and her family. But not in this one, not with FW having to tell himself she was just doing what a good Christian wife should.

Wow, now I have to wonder how Colonel von Pannewitz felt about how the Katte drama played out.

It must have been a subject at home, right?

BTW: the punch happened when the Prussian court was in Braunschweig territory for the Fritz & EC/ Charlotte & EC's brother weddings. I wonder whether Fritz saw his father's face post punching and heard how it came to be thus, and thanks to whom? Given that the wedding festivities demanded FW's public presence all the time, he must have noticed.
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Re: Katte - Species Facti 2

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2020-03-23 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Woohoo! Detective Mildred, we nailed another one.

You did most of the work! I had of course wondered, but had written it off as "large noble family" (see also: letter forwarder Captain Katte not being the same as Zeithain-attending Colonel Katte) without checking. And when I did go digging at your suggestion, it was mostly your backstories on the Pannewitz women that allowed me to connect the dots with confidence. Well done, us!

So I think we're on reasonably good ground to assume she knew and liked him. And had undoubtedly her own opinion on royal justice when it came to his execution. (And of the King being fully of sympathy for the "promising young man" in December.)

I'm not sure we have evidence per se that she liked him? But my headcanon is totally that she did, and that she punched FW on her own behalf, on Katte's behalf, and by extension, ON MY BEHALF. Ahem.

It must have been a subject at home, right?

Absolutely! It must have been a subject in everyone's home for a while!

Given that the wedding festivities demanded FW's public presence all the time, he must have noticed.

"I walked into a door," the old battered wife excuse. :P

Fritz and Fredersdorf: *snickering behind their hands together*

It must have been the highlight of an otherwise grim episode for Fritz.