Yes, he gets Rheinsberg back. (Though Heinrich is going to miss it, he loved that place as much as Fritz did.) Mind you, while I do think retirement could turn out to be the best thing ever to hoppen to Fritz at this point, finally freeing him from his self chosen galley, I would like to point out that MT's offer is only her public plan. Don't forget, in secret, she's sent the Chevalier d'Eon on a rescue mission, and of course if the Chevalier does manage to rescue Joseph, then everything is off the table.
If we don't want to make Fritz too stubborn, he can even agree to the prisoner's exchange, but then before it can happen, in the eleventh hour the Chevalier rescues Joseph and Fritz is back in Austrian captivity. Though MT mmight remember that offer of Young King FW/Regent Heinrich + Retired For Good To Rheinsberg Fritz = Peace once Voltaire's campaign really takes off and she decides this whole Fritz on trial thing is just more trouble than it's worth, still a bad precedent, and did that scoundrel Voltaire really just threaten to publish a trashy tell all about her court, co-starring beloved husband's mistresses (painful, but has happened once or twice before) and beloved daughter-in-law carrying on with beloved daughter (no way!)? (Seydlitz picked something up from Isabella's reaction and told Voltaire.)
Yes, he gets Rheinsberg back. (Though Heinrich is going to miss it, he loved that place as much as Fritz did.)
True. He renovated it heavily, and it's not going to look the same as when Fritz lived there. Now I'm imagining Fritz demanding funds to re-renovate, lol. But Heinrich can build his own palace! There's all these funds for the Neues Palais that won't be needed any more. (cahn, construction was begun as soon as the Seven Years' War ended.)
retirement could turn out to be the best thing ever to hoppen to Fritz at this point, finally freeing him from his self chosen galley
But first he has to have the initial angry-letter-writing campaign about how everything that happened was extremely everyone else's fault. :P But when he's not writing letters and going crazy over not being in control, he's spending his time doing the things he actually wants to do in life, and eventually the momentum builds up to where it's the best thing for him.
If we don't want to make Fritz too stubborn, he can even agree to the prisoner's exchange, but then before it can happen, in the eleventh hour the Chevalier rescues Joseph and Fritz is back in Austrian captivity.
I like this, and I like it even more if we can work in some resistance from Fritz along the lines of "You're not giving away anything important, right? We're still fighting this war? Oh, it's a prisoner exchange. Okay. Cool. And the prisoner is of sufficiently high rank that I'm not being insulted? Just making sure."
did that scoundrel Voltaire really just threaten to publish a trashy tell all about her court, co-starring beloved husband's mistresses (painful, but has happened once or twice before) and beloved daughter-in-law carrying on with beloved daughter (no way!)? (Seydlitz picked something up from Isabella's reaction and told Voltaire.)
Justice through trashy tell-alls! White Knight to the rescue, Voltaire-style. OMG, this is great. Do it!
I like it, I like all of it. Fritz puts up some resistance and only agrees to the exchange once he's assured it meets all of his criteria, the Chevalier gets to shine--oh, man, Heinrich is going to *hear* about that, Retired For Good to Rheinsberg (TM) or not--Voltaire writes trashy tell-alls, Europe gets peace, Fritz gets his moderately happy ending, perfect!
. He renovated it heavily, and it's not going to look the same as when Fritz lived there. Now I'm imagining Fritz demanding funds to re-renovate, lol.
Trufax: When SD visited Rheinsberg for the first time, after Heinrich had the renovating done and had moved in, and is very proud to show it off to Mom, she sighs in delight and says: "How beautiful! Your brother has such excellent taste!"
But Heinrich can build his own palace!
Since he'll send the first few years as Regent before young FW2 comes of age, he'll probably stick to the already existing Hohenzollern Berlin and Potsdam residences (minus Sanssouci). (His own Berlin town residence didn't get finished in rl until after the 7 Years War, too; today, it forms the core of the famous Humboldt University, which would have pleased him. ) After that, well, he's not going to move into Sanssouci, though I'm sure he found it beautiful, but that would be carrying the alter ego stuff too far. And not into Wusterhausen (still owned by Fritz as per FW's testament; Heinrich inherited it only after both Fritz and AW were dead and AW's heir on the throne, FW's testament was that detailed), either. Perhaps he decides to reopen Oranienburg (AW's residence that had been closed after AW's death).
The Chevalier gets to shine--oh, man, Heinrich is going to *hear* about that, Retired For Good to Rheinsberg (TM) or not-
No doubt. Fritz is probably going to assume the Chevalier learned about Joseph's very secret location either because of sex with Heinrich (as a man) or with Seydlitz (as a woman). In reality, the Chevalier found out via old school detective work (which place that can be guarded but has no ostensible military value suddenly gets sent top soldiers as well as good food and clothing?) but did admittedly have a one night stand with Heinrich just in case and for the hell of it, so while Heinrich (correctly) denies having said anything, Fritz will never ever believe him.
I like it, I like all of it. Fritz puts up some resistance and only agrees to the exchange once he's assured it meets all of his criteria, the Chevalier gets to shine--oh, man, Heinrich is going to *hear* about that, Retired For Good to Rheinsberg (TM) or not--Voltaire writes trashy tell-alls, Europe gets peace, Fritz gets his moderately happy ending, perfect!
It occurs to me that this could even save Isabella's life. Because though MT tries to protect him from it, Joseph will find out and will be heartbroken but have the first honest conversation with his wife he's ever had. And since he's just been through the experience of being a helpless prisoner (granted, he was never afraid for his life, but there were some uncomfortable moments when one of his guards turned out to have been someone who'd lost family due to the war, with his home village burned down), and does love her, he doesn't react by becoming now a deliberate tyrant to Isabella but by withdrawing from her entirely and agreeing to lead separate lives. (Divorce is out; even in this AU, they're still 18th Century royal Catholics.) Which means no more pregnancies after the first one (that daughter exists) for Isabella, which means a general better health, and even if she does get infected in 1763, she survives it.
Conclusion: Fritz getting captured in the 7 Years War is the reverse of the trope where one event causes a horrible dysfunctional AU - it improves everyone's lives, even that of Fritz! :) (Who now even has the option of eloping with Voltaire back. If he can ever forgive him for coming to his rescue. And if Voltaire can avoid gloating too much, which, err....)
but did admittedly have a one night stand with Heinrich just in case and for the hell of it, so while Heinrich (correctly) denies having said anything, Fritz will never ever believe him.
HAHAHAHAHA omg, I am dying here.
Justice through Voltaire trashy tell-alls is SO awesome, ngl.
but by withdrawing from her entirely and agreeing to lead separate lives.
!!!! You saved Isabella!! okay, now I need this!
Fix-it for all! Fix allllll the things! (Fix All the Things is my favorite type of AU, you will be totally unsurprised to hear.)
And if Voltaire can avoid gloating too much, which, err....
Yeah, I dunno. Maybe after, like, the fifth time or so?
Fix-it for all! Fix allllll the things! (Fix All the Things is my favorite type of AU, you will be totally unsurprised to hear.)
Well, then you will like the fic I'm currently plotting and hoping to write. :D My stated aim is to fix as many things as possible. I've been thinking I need a historical consultant to hash out ideas with...maybe I should join the selenak bandwagon and start doing plot outlines here.
I can't promise I'll recover my ability to write it in time to still be interested in writing it, but hey, just outlining things is fun.
And if Voltaire can avoid gloating too much, which, err....
Yeah, I dunno. Maybe after, like, the fifth time or so?
Yeah, on his own maybe, but the problem is going to be that Fritz won't take this lying down. If we really want to get them together (even temporarily), maybe the prospect of losing Fritz (in whatever sense) moves Voltaire's "can't live with you, can't live without you" pendulum over to "can't live without you," and inspires Voltaire to a declaration of love that softens the gloating? Enough for them to decide to try again? That would be pretty typical behavior for this kind of addictively dysfunctional relationship.
after Heinrich had the renovating done and had moved in, and is very proud to show it off to Mom, she sighs in delight and says: "How beautiful! Your brother has such excellent taste!"
LOLOLOL
It must have been cold there in my shadow To never have sunlight on your face
Even funnier given how much of Heinrich's taste came from Mom via Fritz.
Palaces: makes sense.
Isabella: I'm with cahn--yay, fix ALL the things! (that can reasonably be fixed)
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If we don't want to make Fritz too stubborn, he can even agree to the prisoner's exchange, but then before it can happen, in the eleventh hour the Chevalier rescues Joseph and Fritz is back in Austrian captivity. Though MT mmight remember that offer of Young King FW/Regent Heinrich + Retired For Good To Rheinsberg Fritz = Peace once Voltaire's campaign really takes off and she decides this whole Fritz on trial thing is just more trouble than it's worth, still a bad precedent, and did that scoundrel Voltaire really just threaten to publish a trashy tell all about her court, co-starring beloved husband's mistresses (painful, but has happened once or twice before) and beloved daughter-in-law carrying on with beloved daughter (no way!)? (Seydlitz picked something up from Isabella's reaction and told Voltaire.)
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omg, THIS pamphlet I want to see. :P
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True. He renovated it heavily, and it's not going to look the same as when Fritz lived there. Now I'm imagining Fritz demanding funds to re-renovate, lol. But Heinrich can build his own palace! There's all these funds for the Neues Palais that won't be needed any more. (
retirement could turn out to be the best thing ever to hoppen to Fritz at this point, finally freeing him from his self chosen galley
But first he has to have the initial angry-letter-writing campaign about how everything that happened was extremely everyone else's fault. :P But when he's not writing letters and going crazy over not being in control, he's spending his time doing the things he actually wants to do in life, and eventually the momentum builds up to where it's the best thing for him.
If we don't want to make Fritz too stubborn, he can even agree to the prisoner's exchange, but then before it can happen, in the eleventh hour the Chevalier rescues Joseph and Fritz is back in Austrian captivity.
I like this, and I like it even more if we can work in some resistance from Fritz along the lines of "You're not giving away anything important, right? We're still fighting this war? Oh, it's a prisoner exchange. Okay. Cool. And the prisoner is of sufficiently high rank that I'm not being insulted? Just making sure."
did that scoundrel Voltaire really just threaten to publish a trashy tell all about her court, co-starring beloved husband's mistresses (painful, but has happened once or twice before) and beloved daughter-in-law carrying on with beloved daughter (no way!)? (Seydlitz picked something up from Isabella's reaction and told Voltaire.)
Justice through trashy tell-alls! White Knight to the rescue, Voltaire-style. OMG, this is great. Do it!
I like it, I like all of it. Fritz puts up some resistance and only agrees to the exchange once he's assured it meets all of his criteria, the Chevalier gets to shine--oh, man, Heinrich is going to *hear* about that, Retired For Good to Rheinsberg (TM) or not--Voltaire writes trashy tell-alls, Europe gets peace, Fritz gets his moderately happy ending, perfect!
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Trufax: When SD visited Rheinsberg for the first time, after Heinrich had the renovating done and had moved in, and is very proud to show it off to Mom, she sighs in delight and says: "How beautiful! Your brother has such excellent taste!"
But Heinrich can build his own palace!
Since he'll send the first few years as Regent before young FW2 comes of age, he'll probably stick to the already existing Hohenzollern Berlin and Potsdam residences (minus Sanssouci). (His own Berlin town residence didn't get finished in rl until after the 7 Years War, too; today, it forms the core of the famous Humboldt University, which would have pleased him. ) After that, well, he's not going to move into Sanssouci, though I'm sure he found it beautiful, but that would be carrying the alter ego stuff too far. And not into Wusterhausen (still owned by Fritz as per FW's testament; Heinrich inherited it only after both Fritz and AW were dead and AW's heir on the throne, FW's testament was that detailed), either. Perhaps he decides to reopen Oranienburg (AW's residence that had been closed after AW's death).
The Chevalier gets to shine--oh, man, Heinrich is going to *hear* about that, Retired For Good to Rheinsberg (TM) or not-
No doubt. Fritz is probably going to assume the Chevalier learned about Joseph's very secret location either because of sex with Heinrich (as a man) or with Seydlitz (as a woman). In reality, the Chevalier found out via old school detective work (which place that can be guarded but has no ostensible military value suddenly gets sent top soldiers as well as good food and clothing?) but did admittedly have a one night stand with Heinrich just in case and for the hell of it, so while Heinrich (correctly) denies having said anything, Fritz will never ever believe him.
I like it, I like all of it. Fritz puts up some resistance and only agrees to the exchange once he's assured it meets all of his criteria, the Chevalier gets to shine--oh, man, Heinrich is going to *hear* about that, Retired For Good to Rheinsberg (TM) or not--Voltaire writes trashy tell-alls, Europe gets peace, Fritz gets his moderately happy ending, perfect!
It occurs to me that this could even save Isabella's life. Because though MT tries to protect him from it, Joseph will find out and will be heartbroken but have the first honest conversation with his wife he's ever had. And since he's just been through the experience of being a helpless prisoner (granted, he was never afraid for his life, but there were some uncomfortable moments when one of his guards turned out to have been someone who'd lost family due to the war, with his home village burned down), and does love her, he doesn't react by becoming now a deliberate tyrant to Isabella but by withdrawing from her entirely and agreeing to lead separate lives. (Divorce is out; even in this AU, they're still 18th Century royal Catholics.) Which means no more pregnancies after the first one (that daughter exists) for Isabella, which means a general better health, and even if she does get infected in 1763, she survives it.
Conclusion: Fritz getting captured in the 7 Years War is the reverse of the trope where one event causes a horrible dysfunctional AU - it improves everyone's lives, even that of Fritz! :) (Who now even has the option of eloping with Voltaire back. If he can ever forgive him for coming to his rescue. And if Voltaire can avoid gloating too much, which, err....)
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HAHAHAHAHA omg, I am dying here.
Justice through Voltaire trashy tell-alls is SO awesome, ngl.
but by withdrawing from her entirely and agreeing to lead separate lives.
!!!! You saved Isabella!! okay, now I need this!
Fix-it for all! Fix allllll the things! (Fix All the Things is my favorite type of AU, you will be totally unsurprised to hear.)
And if Voltaire can avoid gloating too much, which, err....
Yeah, I dunno. Maybe after, like, the fifth time or so?
Re: Wanted: Alive or dead
Well, then you will like the fic I'm currently plotting and hoping to write. :D My stated aim is to fix as many things as possible. I've been thinking I need a historical consultant to hash out ideas with...maybe I should join the
I can't promise I'll recover my ability to write it in time to still be interested in writing it, but hey, just outlining things is fun.
And if Voltaire can avoid gloating too much, which, err....
Yeah, I dunno. Maybe after, like, the fifth time or so?
Yeah, on his own maybe, but the problem is going to be that Fritz won't take this lying down. If we really want to get them together (even temporarily), maybe the prospect of losing Fritz (in whatever sense) moves Voltaire's "can't live with you, can't live without you" pendulum over to "can't live without you," and inspires Voltaire to a declaration of love that softens the gloating? Enough for them to decide to try again? That would be pretty typical behavior for this kind of addictively dysfunctional relationship.
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LOLOLOL
It must have been cold there in my shadow
To never have sunlight on your face
Even funnier given how much of Heinrich's taste came from Mom via Fritz.
Palaces: makes sense.
Isabella: I'm with