Yeah, but he becomes king of Poland just after that. Maybe they're going to do a Poniatowski-focused flashback early in season 2, idk. Or maybe that one appearance is all he gets, but at least to my eye, that appearance near the end made it look like there was going to be something between him and Catherine in future episodes. Maybe they're going to take liberties with chronology.
Maybe I'm just faceblind and he was there in every episode, who knows. :P I did struggle a lot to keep track of people (as per usual--you know, maybe this is part of why I dislike watching things) even without the wigs.
Actually, I just remembered my mother was trying to get me to watch educational television shows, like Sesame Street, at the age of 2-3, and I had no interest. I know from my own memories that I definitely needed glasses by age 4, and didn't get them until 7 or 8. Huh. Maybe my nearsightedness, lifelong lack of interest in movies/shows, and faceblindness are all related. Wild speculation, but maybe.
Maybe they're going to take liberties with chronology.
Thinking about it, should they do an arc with Poniatowski getting elected King with massive Catherine back, then surprising her by actually prioritizing Poland, then Poland getting partionened etc,, it would make narrative sense, I suppose to have the love affair at the start of it so it can be one story, just as I can see the point of cutting Poniatowski out of a story that focuses on the Catherine/Peter drama and Catherine' ascension, since their affair, while important to them when it happened, did not in the end impact on that tale, whereas both Catherine's first affair with Saltykov and the later with Grigorii Orlov are relevant to the Peter story. However, Poniatowski having an affair with Czarina Catherine is a different issue from Poniatowki having an affair with Grand Duchess Catherine.
...also, I doubt that a Russian tv series in the age of Putin is going to be critical of a Russia leader's behavior vis a vis Poland somehow....
Wigs: I sympathize. So do the produces of the Charles II tv show, because the periwig is even worse for facial recognition. Their solution was to declare that it's likely that a) the men were haired beneath it, and b) they didn't wear their wigs on private occasions, so the number of times everyone wears periwigs is cut to the absolute necessary minimum. The solution for the women is that they get wildly different hairstyles in their wigs. Meanwhile, the produces of the Versailles tv show, which takes place at the same time (supposedly) and even features some of the same characters, puts the men in natural long hair (supposedly, the actors don't have it, of course) with no curls and the women all as well (though still iln widly different hair styles. It looks gorgeous, but not much like Louis XVIV at all.
I was short sighted in Kindergarten, too, but it hadn't progressed yet ot the point it did in third grade when my teacher noticed I was writing after what I heard because I couldn't read what was written on the board.
it would make narrative sense, I suppose to have the love affair at the start of it so it can be one story, just as I can see the point of cutting Poniatowski out of a story that focuses on the Catherine/Peter drama and Catherine' ascension
I don't know if that's what they're doing, but I agree that such a decision would make narrative sense.
Their solution was to declare that it's likely that a) the men were haired beneath it, and b) they didn't wear their wigs on private occasions, so the number of times everyone wears periwigs is cut to the absolute necessary minimum.
Excellent!
I was short sighted in Kindergarten, too, but it hadn't progressed yet ot the point it did in third grade when my teacher noticed I was writing after what I heard because I couldn't read what was written on the board.
Hah. I was doing that from day one. (I skipped kindergarten, so went straight into first grade at age 5.) My teacher never noticed I was nearsighted, *but* the fact that I could only do what I heard did lead her to pick up on my ear infection quickly later in the year. I also had the problem in dance class at age 4 that I could only act based on what I heard plus what the students near me were doing. I had noticed that everyone else could see the teacher, but figured they were taller or better situated or something. That's how I know, in hindsight, that I was already very nearsighted.
It looks gorgeous, but not much like Louis XVIV at all.
If it helps me follow the plot, I endorse this particular historical inaccuracy!
...and now, there'll be this: The Great, a satiric miniseries starring Elle Fanning as Catherine and Nicholas Hoult as Peter. Going by the rest of the cast list, the only other character which could be based on someone historical could be Gwilym Lee as "Grigory" (Orlov, I guess). Peter is already Czar when Catherine arrives in the trailer. Official synopsis:
The Great is a satirical, comedic drama about the rise of Catherine the Great from outsider to the longest-reigning female ruler in Russia’s history. Season One is a fictionalized, fun and anachronistic story of an idealistic, romantic young girl, who arrives in Russia for an arranged marriage to the mercurial Emperor Peter. Hoping for love and sunshine, she finds instead a dangerous, depraved, backward world that she resolves to change. All she has to do is kill her husband, beat the church, baffle the military and get the court onside. A very modern story about the past which encompasses the many roles she played over her lifetime as lover, teacher, ruler, friend, and fighter. Incorporating historical facts occasionally, the series stars Elle Fanning as Catherine, Nicholas Hoult, Phoebe Fox, Adam Godley, Gwilym Lee, Charity Wakefield, Douglas Hodge, Sacha Dhawan, Sebastian de Souza, Bayo Gbadamosi and Belinda Bromilow.
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Maybe I'm just faceblind and he was there in every episode, who knows. :P I did struggle a lot to keep track of people (as per usual--you know, maybe this is part of why I dislike watching things) even without the wigs.
Actually, I just remembered my mother was trying to get me to watch educational television shows, like Sesame Street, at the age of 2-3, and I had no interest. I know from my own memories that I definitely needed glasses by age 4, and didn't get them until 7 or 8. Huh. Maybe my nearsightedness, lifelong lack of interest in movies/shows, and faceblindness are all related. Wild speculation, but maybe.
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Thinking about it, should they do an arc with Poniatowski getting elected King with massive Catherine back, then surprising her by actually prioritizing Poland, then Poland getting partionened etc,, it would make narrative sense, I suppose to have the love affair at the start of it so it can be one story, just as I can see the point of cutting Poniatowski out of a story that focuses on the Catherine/Peter drama and Catherine' ascension, since their affair, while important to them when it happened, did not in the end impact on that tale, whereas both Catherine's first affair with Saltykov and the later with Grigorii Orlov are relevant to the Peter story. However, Poniatowski having an affair with Czarina Catherine is a different issue from Poniatowki having an affair with Grand Duchess Catherine.
...also, I doubt that a Russian tv series in the age of Putin is going to be critical of a Russia leader's behavior vis a vis Poland somehow....
Wigs: I sympathize. So do the produces of the Charles II tv show, because the periwig is even worse for facial recognition. Their solution was to declare that it's likely that a) the men were haired beneath it, and b) they didn't wear their wigs on private occasions, so the number of times everyone wears periwigs is cut to the absolute necessary minimum. The solution for the women is that they get wildly different hairstyles in their wigs. Meanwhile, the produces of the Versailles tv show, which takes place at the same time (supposedly) and even features some of the same characters, puts the men in natural long hair (supposedly, the actors don't have it, of course) with no curls and the women all as well (though still iln widly different hair styles. It looks gorgeous, but not much like Louis XVIV at all.
I was short sighted in Kindergarten, too, but it hadn't progressed yet ot the point it did in third grade when my teacher noticed I was writing after what I heard because I couldn't read what was written on the board.
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I don't know if that's what they're doing, but I agree that such a decision would make narrative sense.
Their solution was to declare that it's likely that a) the men were haired beneath it, and b) they didn't wear their wigs on private occasions, so the number of times everyone wears periwigs is cut to the absolute necessary minimum.
Excellent!
I was short sighted in Kindergarten, too, but it hadn't progressed yet ot the point it did in third grade when my teacher noticed I was writing after what I heard because I couldn't read what was written on the board.
Hah. I was doing that from day one. (I skipped kindergarten, so went straight into first grade at age 5.) My teacher never noticed I was nearsighted, *but* the fact that I could only do what I heard did lead her to pick up on my ear infection quickly later in the year. I also had the problem in dance class at age 4 that I could only act based on what I heard plus what the students near me were doing. I had noticed that everyone else could see the teacher, but figured they were taller or better situated or something. That's how I know, in hindsight, that I was already very nearsighted.
It looks gorgeous, but not much like Louis XVIV at all.
If it helps me follow the plot, I endorse this particular historical inaccuracy!
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The Great is a satirical, comedic drama about the rise of Catherine the Great from outsider to the longest-reigning female ruler in Russia’s history. Season One is a fictionalized, fun and anachronistic story of an idealistic, romantic young girl, who arrives in Russia for an arranged marriage to the mercurial Emperor Peter. Hoping for love and sunshine, she finds instead a dangerous, depraved, backward world that she resolves to change. All she has to do is kill her husband, beat the church, baffle the military and get the court onside. A very modern story about the past which encompasses the many roles she played over her lifetime as lover, teacher, ruler, friend, and fighter. Incorporating historical facts occasionally, the series stars Elle Fanning as Catherine, Nicholas Hoult, Phoebe Fox, Adam Godley, Gwilym Lee, Charity Wakefield, Douglas Hodge, Sacha Dhawan, Sebastian de Souza, Bayo Gbadamosi and Belinda Bromilow.
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Based on
HISTORICAL FACTS
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I like that they embrace being anachronistic. Like you guys say, rather honest of them!