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mildred_of_midgard ([personal profile] mildred_of_midgard) wrote in [personal profile] cahn 2020-03-25 02:49 am (UTC)

Re: Fredersdorf: Prime Suspect? (or: By Jove, I've found it!)

This is as good a point as any as to voice my comment on the origin of Fredersdorf's fondness for earthly possessions and making money: if you were working for a decade for a boss who is chronically broke, in debt to half of Europe's sugar daddies and spending money no sooner than he has it, wouldn't you?

Could be, or if it's unrelated to Fritz, suddenly going from poverty (Pomeranian peasant) to plenty makes a *lot* of people go money-crazy. We saw how Fritz reacted to the sudden relief from a deprived childhood! Fredersdorf is subject to the same aspects of human psychology that Fritz is. Some people don't react that way, but many do. Plus, couples that agree on how to handle money have an easier time than couples that don't. Yes, the rank difference means they're not just a couple, but if Fritz isn't driving Fredersdorf crazy with his obsession with getting and spending money, that might help Fredersdorf keep his chill over the years.

But according to the Free Masons I know, it's "du" all the way, because, you know, brothers, at least during lodge meetings and also when talking to each other a deux elsewhere.

Interesting! I wonder if it was the same in the 18th century. Clearly it wasn't in writing, not when a monarch was involved. At lodge meetings, though...I like to imagine Fredersdorf getting to "du" him!

how Eichel is practically invisible and it's impossible to get a hold of him (and bribe him to spy on Fritz)...Fredersdorf has so much money of his own by now that they can't bribe him for their purposes, either.

Haha, it's a rough life being a foreign envoy.

And if Georgii did something blackmail-worthy, Fredersdorf could have told himself he was just looking out for Fritz anyway.

This is an excellent point. Back when we decided MacDonogh's "Fredersdorf pocketed small sums" referred to Tyrconnell's "Fredersdorf accepted payment for forwarding your petition on to Fritz" accusation I went through Fredersdorf's probable thought process (at least to generate a headcanon for fic purposes), and concluded that it would be very easy Fredersdorf to rationalize this as him not being corrupt, i.e. that he would never allow money to influence him to do anything against Fritz's best interests, but all other things being equal wrt Fritz's best interests, if you wanted something *from* Fritz, you might as well pay for the privilege. He might even have seen it as weeding out frivolous requests.

Digging up dirt on people Fritz is showing an unnerving new interest in might fall under that same umbrella of looking out for him in a way that conveniently aligns with the interests of the consigliere.

(Note: no poisoning attempts under his watch. Glasow was after.)

Indeed, and Blanning claims that the poisoning is only one of two accusations that have been made against Glasow, and that the true crime isn't known. Münchow, Jr. certainly thought there was a poisoning attempt, but Münchow, Jr. is not the source of all truth.

especially since anyone to whom Tyrconnel & Latouche would be talking to in the early 1750s would be speaking with the frustratation of Fredersdorf not having lost his top position through the years.

Yeah, Fredersdorf was in a position to collect a lot of malicious gossip. People were bitter.

you can bet that if Voltaire would have heard gossip of either variation re: a temporary Fritz/Fredersdorf fallout back in the day (i.e. either "Fritz was going to sack him for a handsome subaltern, UNTIL" or "Fritz was going to put him back into the army, UNTIL), he'd have included it in either the pamphlet or the memoirs

Ooh, you're right. Voltaire would have told us if he'd known about it. He's pretty bitchy about Fredersdorf, for obvious reasons.

Fredersdorf...sat down at Friedrich's side, where he belonged.

I just wanted to say, this would make an excellent concluding line to a fic or scene in a fic about the handsome hussar! :)

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