Fritz: She's courageous and determined, despite being a woman. MT: He's lying liar who lies, but also a smart, capable workoholic and an A plus general.
Sounds about right!
And he was always gallant to women!
Brief pause while I ask Zimmermann what he's smoking and if he can share, 'cause it sounds like the good stuff.
You should have married him, not that gloating guy from Lorraine!!!)
Now I feel sorry for Frau Zimmermann (if there was one), if he thinks Fritz is better husband material than Franzl. UM!
Also, all this talk of how much less bloodshed there would have been if MT and Fritz had married keeps reminding me of the ancient Greeks. For lo, this happened:
Medea: *saves Jason's ass once a week* Jason: *abandons her* Medea: *kills everybody* Medea: *kills her own kids* Greeks: Man, Jason sucked. So much bloodshed could have been prevented if she'd been luckier in the husband department. This calls for a fix-it fic. Achilles: Hi! I'm your new husband. Greeks: So much less bloodshed! Self: Suuuuure. I mean, if by "less" you mean "different," sure!
I honestly can't decide whether a good marriage or a bad marriage would have been bloodier. Scenario 1: they team up against their many enemies. Scenario 2: Marital warfare.
I mean, sure, a lot of these stories take place in the Elysian Fields, but honestly, if there's one power duo I would trust to bloody up the Elysian Fields...
Other heroes: We're already dead! You can't kill us again! Medea: I'm a witch. Wanna bet? Achilles: I fought a river once!
Greeks: Man, Jason sucked. So much bloodshed could have been prevented if she'd been luckier in the husband department. This calls for a fix-it fic. Achilles: Hi! I'm your new husband.
Waaaaait, I thought I knew my Greek myths but I didn't know about this fix-it, tell me more? (I guess, now that I think on it, my Greek lit, as opposed to myths, is rather patchy.)
I second cahn's wish to know who came up with Achilles/Medea? I mean, I've heard of Achilles/Helen as an alt!pairing as well as a post mortem pairing, but Achilles/Medea is new to me.
In any case, seeing as Achilles told Odysseus during the later's trip through the underworld he'd give all his post mortel glory in the underworld for the life of a living farmer, and that Medea actually could raise (some) of the dead, I could see a possible deal. Then again, Medea strikes me as too cautious to go for a guy famous for his short temper as any kind of long term ally, let alone husband. I mean, look at how she secured herself a safe haven in Athens before committing her bloody revenge in Corinth. And no way would she put up with playing second fiddle to Patroklos!
Now I feel sorry for Frau Zimmermann (if there was one), if he thinks Fritz is better husband material than Franzl. UM!
I personally encountered it when reading Apollonius of Rhodes' Argonautica, which is a Hellenistic work, but the internet is telling me the Greeks were shipping them all the way back to Simonides and Ibycus, who were Archaic poets. I have read little (Simonides) or none (Ibycus) of them, so cannot confirm.
(Have not read the Argonautica since college, but am still boggling at this ship all these many years later.)
Now, I'm not comparing MT to Medea, but it's the same "He was the MAN! She was the WOMAN!" logic for what makes a good marriage.
And no way would she put up with playing second fiddle to Patroklos!
Hahaha. Maybe they could make it work in some kind of "separate spheres" arrangement? I'm getting the urge to write this, but sigh, I cannot write these days, so I'll add it to my wishlist.
ETA: Meant to add, my current favorite power duo is you + me: librarian + reader! Zimmermann vs. Münchow is only the latest and greatest of our output. :D
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Re: Fritz as a writer: an early Victorian take
MT: He's lying liar who lies, but also a smart, capable workoholic and an A plus general.
Sounds about right!
And he was always gallant to women!
Brief pause while I ask Zimmermann what he's smoking and if he can share, 'cause it sounds like the good stuff.
You should have married him, not that gloating guy from Lorraine!!!)
Now I feel sorry for Frau Zimmermann (if there was one), if he thinks Fritz is better husband material than Franzl. UM!
Also, all this talk of how much less bloodshed there would have been if MT and Fritz had married keeps reminding me of the ancient Greeks. For lo, this happened:
Medea: *saves Jason's ass once a week*
Jason: *abandons her*
Medea: *kills everybody*
Medea: *kills her own kids*
Greeks: Man, Jason sucked. So much bloodshed could have been prevented if she'd been luckier in the husband department. This calls for a fix-it fic.
Achilles: Hi! I'm your new husband.
Greeks: So much less bloodshed!
Self: Suuuuure. I mean, if by "less" you mean "different," sure!
I honestly can't decide whether a good marriage or a bad marriage would have been bloodier. Scenario 1: they team up against their many enemies. Scenario 2: Marital warfare.
I mean, sure, a lot of these stories take place in the Elysian Fields, but honestly, if there's one power duo I would trust to bloody up the Elysian Fields...
Other heroes: We're already dead! You can't kill us again!
Medea: I'm a witch. Wanna bet?
Achilles: I fought a river once!
Re: Fritz as a writer: an early Victorian take
Achilles: Hi! I'm your new husband.
Waaaaait, I thought I knew my Greek myths but I didn't know about this fix-it, tell me more? (I guess, now that I think on it, my Greek lit, as opposed to myths, is rather patchy.)
Re: Fritz as a writer: an early Victorian take
Also, the Greek corpus is huge, and there are always myth surprises out there waiting for you. :)
power couples of the ancient world
In any case, seeing as Achilles told Odysseus during the later's trip through the underworld he'd give all his post mortel glory in the underworld for the life of a living farmer, and that Medea actually could raise (some) of the dead, I could see a possible deal. Then again, Medea strikes me as too cautious to go for a guy famous for his short temper as any kind of long term ally, let alone husband. I mean, look at how she secured herself a safe haven in Athens before committing her bloody revenge in Corinth. And no way would she put up with playing second fiddle to Patroklos!
Now I feel sorry for Frau Zimmermann (if there was one), if he thinks Fritz is better husband material than Franzl. UM!
Indeed!
Re: power couples of the ancient world
(Have not read the Argonautica since college, but am still boggling at this ship all these many years later.)
Now, I'm not comparing MT to Medea, but it's the same "He was the MAN! She was the WOMAN!" logic for what makes a good marriage.
And no way would she put up with playing second fiddle to Patroklos!
Hahaha. Maybe they could make it work in some kind of "separate spheres" arrangement? I'm getting the urge to write this, but sigh, I cannot write these days, so I'll add it to my wishlist.
ETA: Meant to add, my current favorite power duo is you + me: librarian + reader! Zimmermann vs. Münchow is only the latest and greatest of our output. :D