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selenak ([personal profile] selenak) wrote in [personal profile] cahn 2020-02-25 06:48 pm (UTC)

Re: Stop the Presses! Münchow vs Zimmermann: It's on!

That, or I was always skeptical Catt was the only one who knew, as he claimed. Still, I imagine it was supposed to be a secret, and I do imagine Catt blabbed sooner or later.

Let's say he waited until the war was over. But then it's le roi m'a dit time! Incidentally, I suspect one reason why Fritz told him (and who knows who else) were his survival instincts; subconsciously, he wanted someone to know and stop him.

He's also only trying to refute the idea that Fritz *never* had sex after 1734, for which 5 counterexamples from 1740 would suffice. But he does make it sound like Fritz was getting laid regularly for 7 years. With EC, which I highly doubt. Young, innocent page just assumed it was his wife. :P

Yes, that's what I was thinking as well, with the other story he's not telling clearly one where even a young innocent page didn't assume EC to be the other party. BTW, of course asking EC's surviving waiting women (if they were any) from ye early days would most likely have produced just the opposite result of what Münchow wanted to hear; it does occur to me that Zimmermann might have done that and hence developed his theory, but that's probably crediting Zimmermann with too much actual research.

There's also the fact that post- page stage, Münchow then served in the military, still within Fritz' larger proximity but surely not sleeping in the next room(s) anymore like pages do. So while he says 1739 - 1746 where he's able to swear to Fritz' habits, I'm assuming he's mostly thinking of 39 - 41,42, or whenever he graduated from page to soldier.

Incidentally, German wiki tells me that Lucchesini also has both published "Conversations with Fritz" and has kept a diary published in 1885. So, I doubt there's an explicit "Last night the King told me he had beeen getting it on with Glasow before the war, and then Glasow tried to kill him, though not because of the bad sex" statement in either, since that would have been quoted in the biographies already, but maybe something euphemistic yet vibey, like Fontanes's "relationship of the heart" phrasing about Heinrich's bfs.

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