Weinen is literally weeping with tears. Lamenting would be klagen.
OMGGGG. Hurt/comfort is canon. :'-(((
With a pronounced interest in mathematics and mechanics, which the teacher of the Prince, Senning, made even more keen through his classes, were connected budding artistic abilities;
So he's saying Fritz's teacher, Senning, also taught Katte. Thank you for clarifying the relationships among the individuals there.
Okay, so that's where the "Katte and Fritz shared private lessons on mathematics and mechanics" in Wikipedia (and Zeithain) comes from. Now I just need to figure out where Koser got *his* info from. I'm guessing it's the other species facti, the one I don't have, because the note at the end says that's where most of the Katte info comes from, the two species facti. And I don't see anything about mechanics or sharing lessons in this one.
I'm no longer surprised Förster thought poor Protestant Fritz was trying to escape an Evil Catholic plot, too,
Yes, that makes sense now! There are multiple marriage AU plots going on. It makes sense: if Fritz can't escape his father through one marriage, he'll try another marriage. All he really wants is not to be horrifically abused.
And that was too much to ask. :(
I let Fritz chastize himself for not thinking of marrying an archduchess while Katte was still alive. Which he evidently did.
I was thinking of that! But if Katte really is lying, it may not be AU after all: maybe Fritz got the idea *from* Katte.
But that seems like a surprisingly risky gamble from Katte, if so. (b) and (c) seem more likely to me. Especially (c), if Fritz and Katte can't keep their story straight under interrogation. The most straightforward explanation to me is:
Fritz: *tells Katte about G & S's marriage plan* Katte: *uses the Evil Plot to justify helping Fritz escape* FW: *confronts Fritz with his lie* Fritz: Shit! Dad's never gonna buy that G & S were behind this. "I'm sure there was some mistake! Ask Katte again!" Fritz: *sending Katte frantic telepathic signals* Katte: *oblivious* No, seriously, that's what I was told. Don't you want me to get your son away from evil Catholic plots? *bats eyelashes* FW: The only people not lying to me here are G & S. Off with Fritz and Katte's heads!
Now, I haven't seen the documentary evidence for this supposed accusation by Katte, but I'm trying to get my hands on Hinrichs' book, which might have some of the interrogation material. (Since shipping to the US is expensive, I'm going to try seeing if I can ILL it. Will report back if I'm successful.)
Possible (d) idea:
d) Katte was trying to talk Fritz into staying, and Fritz lied to him to get more support for his plan.
That would be consistent with the account given above, where Katte innocently maintains what he believes to be true and Fritz is frantically denying it.
Oh, one thing I forgot to mention in my Koser write-up: apparently one argument Fritz used with Katte to argue that escaping was safe was that Grandpa F1 ran away in 1679 when *he* was crown prince, and *he* didn't get in trouble! And then apparently Vienna brought this up with FW when trying to intervene for Fritz.
FW apparently liked that argument about as well as he liked the G & S Catholic plot accusation.
FW: That's completely different! Dad was worried about being poisoned! And he was careful not to desert! My father was nothing like that worst of all possible sons I had to lock up in Küstrin. And DON'T tell me the Emperor mediated with my father and grandfather and it worked out really well. I rule alone!
Re: Katte! - The Koser take
OMGGGG. Hurt/comfort is canon. :'-(((
With a pronounced interest in mathematics and mechanics, which the teacher of the Prince, Senning, made even more keen through his classes, were connected budding artistic abilities;
So he's saying Fritz's teacher, Senning, also taught Katte. Thank you for clarifying the relationships among the individuals there.
Okay, so that's where the "Katte and Fritz shared private lessons on mathematics and mechanics" in Wikipedia (and Zeithain) comes from. Now I just need to figure out where Koser got *his* info from. I'm guessing it's the other species facti, the one I don't have, because the note at the end says that's where most of the Katte info comes from, the two species facti. And I don't see anything about mechanics or sharing lessons in this one.
I'm no longer surprised Förster thought poor Protestant Fritz was trying to escape an Evil Catholic plot, too,
Yes, that makes sense now! There are multiple marriage AU plots going on. It makes sense: if Fritz can't escape his father through one marriage, he'll try another marriage. All he really wants is not to be horrifically abused.
And that was too much to ask. :(
I let Fritz chastize himself for not thinking of marrying an archduchess while Katte was still alive. Which he evidently did.
I was thinking of that! But if Katte really is lying, it may not be AU after all: maybe Fritz got the idea *from* Katte.
But that seems like a surprisingly risky gamble from Katte, if so. (b) and (c) seem more likely to me. Especially (c), if Fritz and Katte can't keep their story straight under interrogation. The most straightforward explanation to me is:
Fritz: *tells Katte about G & S's marriage plan*
Katte: *uses the Evil Plot to justify helping Fritz escape*
FW: *confronts Fritz with his lie*
Fritz: Shit! Dad's never gonna buy that G & S were behind this. "I'm sure there was some mistake! Ask Katte again!"
Fritz: *sending Katte frantic telepathic signals*
Katte: *oblivious* No, seriously, that's what I was told. Don't you want me to get your son away from evil Catholic plots? *bats eyelashes*
FW: The only people not lying to me here are G & S. Off with Fritz and Katte's heads!
Now, I haven't seen the documentary evidence for this supposed accusation by Katte, but I'm trying to get my hands on Hinrichs' book, which might have some of the interrogation material. (Since shipping to the US is expensive, I'm going to try seeing if I can ILL it. Will report back if I'm successful.)
Possible (d) idea:
d) Katte was trying to talk Fritz into staying, and Fritz lied to him to get more support for his plan.
That would be consistent with the account given above, where Katte innocently maintains what he believes to be true and Fritz is frantically denying it.
Oh, one thing I forgot to mention in my Koser write-up: apparently one argument Fritz used with Katte to argue that escaping was safe was that Grandpa F1 ran away in 1679 when *he* was crown prince, and *he* didn't get in trouble! And then apparently Vienna brought this up with FW when trying to intervene for Fritz.
FW apparently liked that argument about as well as he liked the G & S Catholic plot accusation.
FW: That's completely different! Dad was worried about being poisoned! And he was careful not to desert! My father was nothing like that worst of all possible sons I had to lock up in Küstrin. And DON'T tell me the Emperor mediated with my father and grandfather and it worked out really well. I rule alone!