cahn | Frederick the Great discussion post 9

Heh, I didn't know Martin was from Candide (I've never read it all the way through, which I know I need to do, I'll do it by this year's Yuletide, lol), thank you

mildred_of_midgard! but I can tell you about the Manichaeism context!

"Best of all possible worlds," as I'm sure you know, refers to the question of "how can bad things happen if God is omnipotent and omnibenevolent?" and ends with the answer "well, this must be the best of all possible worlds!" But of course you could instead postulate that Good and Evil are dualistic and so therefore the answer to the question in this case would be, "well, Evil exists and does Evil Things, and Good is no more powerful than Evil, so that's why bad things happen."

(My very vague understanding/partial reading of Candide leads me to believe that this is also the context in which Martin appears.)

So Voltaire is saying here that omg, De Prades has betraaaaaayed Fritz, how could this possibly be the best of all possible worlds?? No, it can't be; Voltaire must therefore be a Manichaean and believe that evil is indeed a power in the world, that such things could happen.

I mean, it's all very tongue-in-cheek and rather mocking of Fritz for being upset about it (for two people who reacted to things pretty much the same way, they sure do both make fun of each other a lot for their reactions, geez), but I suppose you could stretch and say "dismayed" if you had to; I do think there is a kernel of dismay in there :)

All right, I totally ship Fontane and Heinrich now :D Bring on the crackfic! <3

<3 This is really touching! <3

The history the King himself has written of his own life as well as all the praise after his death do not leave anything left for me to say.

LOL FOREVER HEINRICH
We know what you really meant, it's OK

But great service, rendered in darkness, is not immune to being deleted by oblivion
Heinrich: AW needed (a) a hug (b) NOT TO BE EMOTIONALLY ABUSED BY HIS BROTHER

Which man of impartial judgment would deny it to the memory of Prince August Wilhelm?

omg BURN

All who knew him and yet live

I think you told me he started this obelisk the instant Fritz died, right?

Anyway. Happy (somewhat belated) birthday, Heinrich!

Wow, all hail the Katte genealogist :D

Face it, you two have no chill when it comes to that.

Yeah. Like you say, both hilarious and heartbreaking.

if there was talk as late as freaking 1739 about a possible change in the order of succession - no matter how unfounded, which it was, if FW would have done it, it would have been in 1730/1731, not later than that - , it might have sunk into his subconscious.

Wow! That makes a lot of sense to me. Ugh, FW.

You must admit that you have benefited marvelously from the lessons of Maupertuis. He rounded up the earth, and you rounded up your country. They say you calculate fairer and easier than him. Would I dare to beg you to communicate to me your method, which would do an unequaled good for our country, and, by flattening it, would more often bring me the happiness of presenting myself to you? However, it is not the mountains that will stop me; no obstacle, however rough it may be, will stop me, as soon as it comes to seeing all that I hold dearest in the world.

This is really endearing. I love Wilhelmine when she's in an amused mood <3

As I imagine that, having its attributes, you will want to follow its uses, I take the liberty to offer you this fabric as the beginnings of our manufacture, and when I address my wishes to the gods, I dare to say to them: Divinities of Olympus, if you deign to favor Swabia with your presence, grant one day the same favors to Prussia!

Fritz and Wilhelmine are so cute, omg <3

Oh, Voltaire.

I must say after reading Zinsser my expectation is basically that Voltaire will quarrel and get in trouble wherever he is, and, well, this is not really changing my assumption :P

Maybe she likes Voltaire because she doesn't really see him emotionally as a threat? Since he always has these girlfriends and all :P

but, by not reading his books, there was a way of being very happy with them.

*blinks*

Is Wilhelmine the only person he writes to about Biche? In this case I can kind of see why he doesn't write to anyone about Fredersdorf — he's not nobility, maybe he thinks no one will really understand?

and we all smoked like dragons. You see, my very dear brother, that with my natural courage, my genius for war and this new talent which I have just acquired, I could become a great general. However, I still have a doubt, because I have never found in history that Alexander or Caesar smoked. Anyway, it was predicted to me that I would command an army in the course of this year. I am so proud of this prophecy and so gullible that I only read books that deal with the profession; and to learn tactics well, I arrange pompoms and fanfreluches for the Opera.

Have I mentioned lately that Wilhelmine is the best?? She really is.

The 20th of the coming month will be the wedding of Monseigneur Henri. I'm not in his confidence regarding his love or his indifference (towards the bride), but I believe that, in all respects, women will do him good.

WOW.

I find their correspondence about the soul very touching, actually <3 (And Wilhelmine, as usual, is lovely <3333)

Hee! Put it in! I mean, I wouldn't advise a writer to do that normally, but you know mildred and I would love it :D

Good. Grief.

…yeah.

Here I must say the complete letter is actually better than the quote from it I was already familiar with, which was the "I was right, he was wrong" sentence. (It's still incredibly - err, Fritzian.)

Yeah, I mean, my reaction was, "It's… better than the letter to Heinrich?" But yeah, his pain really comes through in this.

And the rest of the letters are just heartbreaking :(((((((( Oh Fritz, oh Wilhelmine :(

(Also, Margrave! Like, I can see you had good intentions. But ouch!)

Yes, he actually is writing helpful and reassuring things! It's really actually a good condolence letter in a lot of ways. (I didn't realize how much her future depended on Fritz, thank you for that context, as always.)

Ah, I... don't think I have visited a palace in months other than summer :) That's really nice. And I hadn't thought to make the contrast to FW, but YES.

The first time

mildred_of_midgard brought up how Fritz wanted to make deaths all about hiiiiiim we were talking about how nowadays one has the internet to help us out with things like How To Write a Darned Condolence Letter in Ways That Are Less Fritzian, which of course Fritz didn't have access to, and I mentioned learning ring theory from the interwebs :)

Oh! I found the original comment. Wow, I knew a lot less stuff then :D And it was only a couple of months ago!

I just rechecked (in the German edition, the bowlderized English edition doesn't seem to have it)

Arrrrgh! It doesn't have any of the good stuff!

and it will please you to learn that in fact, FW got not slapped, but punched.

Wow. That does please me. But wow.

but I think the timing for this unprecedented attempt by Mr. "No Mistresses! No Whores!" (as an opening paragraph in his political testament, no less) to break his record of marital fidelity after all would indicate a good chance that SD had ended sexuals relations for good by then, and there is an obvious reason.

Ohhhhhhh! *feels illuminated*

(Now I just have to figure out what Marwitz thinks he's getting out of all this.)

So I'm reading all this at the same time as the Lehndorff/Fredersdorf comments, and I feel like the answer is obvious! --

Marwitz: I just want to say, none of this was my fault at all. When you're a page, it's not like anyone stops to tell you his name, you know? And there are a bunch of Hohenzollerns! I mean, there are like multiple princes and a King! At least Prince Ferdinand is quiet, so you can tell that one's him. But you get this short sarcastic guy who likes ordering people around and goes off on a moment's notice and, well. Can you really blame me for mixing up Prince Heinrich and King Friedrich a couple of times? I realized my mistake soon enough, of course, once we were in the bedroom. Heinrich was much more, mm, enthusiastic. Whereas King Fritz had me undress but didn't, you know, actually do anything. He watched me a lot and then kinda made a face and told me to put my clothes back on. Still not sure what was going on with that.

And yeah, there was that time that Voltaire came to visit and, well, he's pretty mouthy too. So to speak. What can I say, it's hard to keep all these mouthy guys straight. Or, well, you know.

Thank you for explaining/reminding! Very useful for rl. And yes, would have been useful for Fritz, too, had he been able to listen, but the later EC letters do show some improvement.

We all knew a lot less then. I was barely there had been more than one Keith, had never heard of Algarotti, and couldn't have named even one Fritz dog. DW: truly the earthly paradise!

D'Argens: how to distract my royal patron from the death of his favourite sister and his self-caused defeat in battle? I'm still French, so I can't exaxtly say "hope you'll kick our asses in the next battle, Sire". Oh, I know! Gossip about the competition always does the trick with Fritz. Even if it's the dead competion.

Maupertuis: given he had every reason to be incensed at Voltaire and to be grateful to Fritz for the support, I think it's entirely possible he might at least have heavily hinted, along the lines of "also, Sire, you know the REAL reason why that bastard has it in for me? Other than competing for your gracious self, of course. I was, cough, well, at times rather close to the late Marquise..."

Truly, it was a lose-lose position. I mean, there's a bloody war going on, of course if Wilhelmine doesn't hear anything from her beloved brother, she's going to assume the worst. Otoh, if your doctors explicitly tell you one more bad news/loss will finish her off, and you know she's also become close to brother AW, keeping her from finding this out for as long as possible is also something you'd want to do. (Especially since it's completely unexpected.Yes, Wilhelmine knew about AW having health troubles, starting in late 1757, see Heinrich enlisting her in the effort to cajole Fritz into allowing Dr. Cothenius to see AW when AW was in Leipzig. And she was sending AW her own suggestions for what might help, based on all the stuff she'd had to take through the last decade or several. But that entire family is always having health troubles, and he'd been among the healthiest members and was only 35. There was no reason for her to believe he'd die and prepare herself for news like that.

...I wouldn't have wanted to make that call, is what I'm saying, but I think in the end I'd have gone with not letting her imagine Fritz dead, because "first, indissolluble attachments" and all.

BTW, I remember in one of the earliest posts Mildred had asked me whether Fritz was ever known to visit Wilhelmine's grave (to get comparative data for him not visiting Katte's grave), and I couldn't say. That was before I had a clearer idea about the chronology. Given that the war doesn't end until 1763 and the Margrave dies early in that very year, succeeded by crazy uncle Christian who kicks out all the artists and scholars and cuts down contact to the main Hohenzollerns to the absolute mininum, I'm 100% sure he didn't.

(Wilhelmine's daugther the Duchess of Würtemberg who'd been living with her parents moves to Erlangen at this point and also takes up travelling - that's when she meets Voltaire - and visiting Berlin a lot.)

But yes, the letters are heartbreaking, and I'm frowning at Deconstructing Fritz biographer who claims he didn't love her (or any other family member), it was all rethorical posing.

"I believe that, in all respects, women/a woman will do him good" from one gay man about another would be boggling in most circumstances, but coming from Fritz about Heinrich, it has that special extra.

Fritz: I meant that he'd have an additonal source of income, thus providing less expenses to me, and would understand my own situation a little better. Naturally.

Biche: not sure. I mean, I know Biche, Alkmene et al. are mentioned in the Fredersdorf letters, but that's sort of the point, and I thinkAlkmene makes it into someone else's correspondance as well, though when she's ill, not dying. Also, conversely, we have the grieving letter from Wilhelmine about Folichon dying which was in my travel correspondance write up, and here we have the point of comparison because she doesn't mention it to her other correspondants. She and Fritz were clearly each other's dog people. Hence also my going "aw" when I realised - since the Bayreuth website points it out - that the statue of her in the Sanssouci Temple of Friendship shows her with Folichon.

I can kind of see why he doesn't write to anyone about Fredersdorf — he's not nobility, maybe he thinks no one will really understand?

Not nobility, and the nature of the relationship itself is almost impossible to name in contemporary terms. I mean, Voltaire isn't nobility, either (the "de Voltaire" not withstanding, he made that up as a young man, remember, he was born Francois Arouet), but loved and hated writers are their own thing, so naturally Fritz can complain about Voltaire to just about anyone and rave about Voltaire (his intellect only, natch, nope, nothing else) to just about anyone. And when someone like Eichel dies, he can go "trusted old servant, though couldn't work that much anymore through the last three years".

And of course if friends like Suhm or Rothenburg die, both of whom are nobility and acknowledged friends, he can proclaim his distress to all and sunder, it's even expected in the age of passionate friendships.

I suppose he could have written something like "word has reached me that my former valet Fredersdorf, who's been unwell for a while ~~which is why he married A NURSE~~ has died; he has served for for many years, and thus I was sorry to hear it". But that would have been completely inadequate in terms of rendering what he must have felt.

The "we all smoked like dragons" passage is adorable, isn't it? I also was reminded of another one, from the travel letters, where she goes, only slightly paraphrased, "I've heard we'll all be turned into glass by a comet, can't say I mind, better than becoming worm food, and I like the idea of me becoming someone's garden decoration as a glass statue afterwards". Because of all the drama dominating the family saga, it's good to get a reminder every now and then that Wilhelmine, like her brother, had a wry wit and that their personal interactions involved kidding each other and making each other smile as much as anything else.

my expectation is basically that Voltaire will quarrel and get in trouble wherever he is

I suppose you could except Ferney. (His Swiss retirement estate.) No drama there, he channeled his quarelling energies the long distance way by championing victims of legal injustices like Calas (wrote a bit about this in my "death of Voltaire" narration) in fiery pamphlets, and the people of Ferney rather approved of him building and financing Schools for them, not to mention he gave them jobs at his estate. When Madame Denis sold it all after his death, it was rather a blow for the people at Ferney. But yes, other than that.

Maybe she likes Voltaire because she doesn't really see him emotionally as a threat? Since he always has these girlfriends and all

Hm, could be an element (Fritz will never be Voltaire's one and only focus of attention), but I think it's just that Voltaire is her problematic fave. I mean, none of the other boyfriends shares so many personality traits with her beloved brother! Also, of course, while Voltaire doesn't flirt with her as with young Ulrike pre her marriage, he does correspond with her, and being taken seriously by Europe's most famous intellectual when you've been thought lesser because female all your life is rather flattering. The German edition of Wilhelmine's memoirs adds some letters of hers to Voltaire from the last year of her life (for the benefit of the readers, so they know about her ending, not because said letters were intended to go with the memoirs), and she adresses him as "Brother Voltaire" more than once. You can see why she might have thought he'd fit right in with the Hohenzollern family.

I think you told me he started this obelisk the instant Fritz died, right?

Yep. It took some years to complete, of course. Fritz died in the August of 1786; the Obelisk was inaugurated in July 1791, with hundreds of surviving war veterans attending. Now of course war memorials were nothing new, all the way going back to the Egyptians. But this was probably the first throwing so much shade at the supreme commander of the army whose dead it is commemorating. In addition to brother AW, you have Schwerin ("on April 11th, 1741, he won the battle of Mollwitz" - read: him, not Fritz, see Mildred's summary on this), James Keith (" With the greatest integrity, he combined the most extensive and thorough knowledge. In Russia, during the war against the Turks, he acquired a well-deserved fame, which he confirmed in Prussian service. The regret of all soulful hearts, the tears of all warriors immortalized forever his memory. He remained at Hochkirch, 14 October 1758" - the defeat of Hochkirch, you'll recall, which was entirely due to Fritz ignoring every other general's advice), Wobersnow ("the king's first adjutant. He was distinguished by a lively sense of honour and great military knowledge. In 1757, at the Battle of Prague, when he gathered the Prussian left wing to lead it anew against the enemy, he was wounded. He was in all campaigns against the Russians. The Battle of Kai was ordered against his will; the Prussians lost it, and he fell as a hero") Before the later 20th century, when the attitude towards war in general changed significantly, I can't think of something comparable, and even then: the Vietnam War Memorial, say, doesn't include inscriptions saying "and this battaillion died because SOMEONE ordered an attack that got even more people killed in vain".

Now don't get me wrong: Heinrich was by no means a pacifist. He had different tactics than Fritz, which got way less people killed, but that doesn't mean he hesitated to order attacks when he thought they would work, and naturally he expected his soldiers to maim and kill their opponents until the day was won. (And since he personally engaged in battle (like his brother), I'm assuming he also personally killed people.) Not to mention that he had his own Machiavellian streak; screwing the Poles over had been his idea first (on the Prussian side, Catherine probably thought of it way earlier on the Russian side). All the same, the speech puts a remarkable emphasis on the cost and the sacrifices of war (in terms of what was usual in that era), and the inscriptions for the individual honored people often empasize their integrity and refusal to engage in plunder and oppression of the defeated. Layers again: the obelisk is both a "Fuck you, Fritz!" monument and a way to commemorate people he thought deserved to be honored and an expression of his own idea of military ethics.

ROTFLOL! You've solved the mystery! This must be the answer.

Behind on comments, working on manual cleanup, but just wanted to ask our royal reader a quick question: can you check out Lehndorff, volume 2, page 420, and tell me whether Frau von Keith has a son of her own, or whether that's referring to someone else's son, like the frau in the previous sentence?

Because if so, that's the first indication of Peter Keith not having a childless marriage that I've seen. It surprises me all the more because when Peter dies, Lehndorff doesn't mention any offspring (that I can see from glancing at the German), and only refers to Jägerhof as the place where his widow lives.

(In between political correspondence cleanup, working on a post about the Keiths, emphasis on Peter, for Rheinsberg, and I did a more thorough job of searching through Lehndorff this time. Found some new tidbits that I will share soon.)

Also, when Lehndorff refers to the "Königin" when SD is still alive, he's still referring the actual queen and his boss, right, not the queen mother who outranks EC because Fritz?

Bonus points if you can answer a trickier question: when Lehndorff reports deaths during the Seven Years' War, does he somehow signal a difference between people who died military deaths off somewhere in Saxony or Silesia or the like, and people who died civilian deaths at home in Berlin? Because my default assumption would be that Lt. Col. Keith is at war during the Seven Years' War, but one, Lehndorff seems to get the news very quickly, and two, he doesn't seem to signal at all that Peter died in war, and three, he seems far more interested in Peter's academy tenure and the fact that the academy is going to give some kind of recognition than in any military service. Now this may reflect the fact that Lehndorff is a civilian in Berlin and is much more concerned with local events, but still I wonder: did Peter maybe die at home and not at war? (His death is reported in vol. 1, p. 312., if you want to read that account and see if you can glean any clues about location of death.)

Okay, so: Frau Prinzessin, the princess, without any additional name is always Mina, Heinrich's wife. So, the passage you asked about in context goes:

"On the occasion of the Princess' birthday, the Queen invites the entire town to a ball and a beautiful party. I've just returned from it, and the music is still ringing in my ears. Earlier, I've dined at Princess Amalie's, who celebrated her sister-in-law's birthday. Recently, after she'd dismissed Herr v. Holtzendorff from her services, she has caused Frau v. Keith to provide her (A) with her son (i.e. Frau v. Keith's son) as a cavalier. Eight days later this young man was transferred to the cabinet, and thus she's again without a cavalier. Now she's entrusted herself to a quack whom she believes to be capable of performing miracles for her, because he recently cured a chamber woman of Princess Wilhelmina (Minor)'s from dropsy."

I.e. the son in Question is definitely Frau v. Keith's son. However, whether Frau v. Keith is also Peter's widow is another matter. And no, in the two pages on Peter apropos his dying, there's no mention of a son. Otoh it's mentioned his wife is a born Fräulein von Knyphausen, and the Knyphausens definitely have various Family members at court, so it could be her.

The Queen: Lehndorff usually means EC when speaking just of the queen; if he speaks of both her and SD in one Paragraph, he adds "the Young Queen" or "the reigning Queen". SD is more often the Queen Mother than she is the Queen, but just to make your life more difficult, sometimes she is the Queen, too. (For example when he compares the two to EC's disadvantage after SD's death.) Anyway, if there's just one queen he's referring to in a passage, without any additional Attribute, it's usually his boss.

Peter's place of death: the passage doesn't say, but instinctively I'd vote for "he died at home, not in war", because Lehndorff writes "around this time, Lietenent Co. Keith dies, too". Stirbt, dies, not "fällt" (falls) or "wird getötet ("is killed"), which is what's more commonly used for death in battle. Also worth considering: the description of Peter's career mentions Fritz put him in charge of the administration of Charlottenburg Palace and of the Tiergarten. Since this is at when the war is still going well for Prussia, there is no sign of evacuation, and the court is still in Berlin, which means Charlottenburg isn't going to administrate itself, and the Tiergarten is as popular a Destination for Berliners as ever.

Also worth noting: the immediate next entry for January mentions that all four Hohenzollern Brothers are in Berlin for a quick visit with their mother. This will be the last time SD sees all of her sons together and they see her alive. So if Peter did die in Berlin at the end of December 1756, Fritz might, in fact, have been there - not at his death bed, presumably Lehndorff would have mentioned that, but he could have seen him.

Then again, I could put a far too great importance on the verb "die". Still: for example, when Lehndorff mentions his older brother died in the aftermath of Hochkirch, not at the battle itself, he mentions the cause - "der rote Friesel" - which is a slang term for wound infection, and if he records battle deaths, he usually mentions the battle place in question. Especially if it's someone he has a good opinion of, which certainly is the case with Peter Keith.

I salute you, O gracious and learned Reader!

Otoh it's mentioned his wife is a born Fräulein von Knyphausen, and the Knyphausens definitely have various Family members at court, so it could be her.

Well, in another passage, Lehndorff mentions dining at the Queen's (the context in which I asked about which queen) with Frau von Keith and playing with her (I assume music), and says she was born a Knyphausen. And we know not just from Lehndorff, but from Fritz's correspondence that Peter was engaged to a Knyphausen in 1742. Lehndorff then proceeds to mention Frau v. Keith a number of times, always positively.* So my first guess is that Frau v. Keith is Peter's wife and Lehndorff just really likes them both. But it did occur to me that I can name 3 Katte-Bismarck marriages off the top of my head, and there are SO MANY Keiths, related and unrelated, and a number of Knyphausens, that it's possible that there was another Knyphausen-Keith marriage. Because it is weird about the son whom there's otherwise no record of.

* During the evacuation of Berlin in 1760, Lehndorff's mother has been staying with Frau v. Keith (Peter's widow?), and Lehndorff mentions that she paid his mother a lot of attention, and that you never forget these kinds of favors.

Your impression of Lehndorff's reporting and the likelihood of Peter dying in Berlin matches mine, but I wanted to check with you, since you've read him all the way through, and as usual, you added wonderful extra details. :)

Also worth considering: the description of Peter's career mentions Fritz put him in charge of the administration of Charlottenburg Palace and of the Tiergarten. Since this is at when the war is still going well for Prussia, there is no sign of evacuation, and the court is still in Berlin, which means Charlottenburg isn't going to administrate itself, and the Tiergarten is as popular a Destination for Berliners as ever.

I had noticed the Charlottenburg and Tiergarten administration responsibilities, and if this overlaps with his academy curator position (which Carlyle records him holding as late as 1752), that's a lot of administration! Of reasonably important things.

It also occurred to me that Lt. Col. Keith staying in Berlin in 1756 at the age of 45 is a different matter from Keith at the age of 30 feeling ashamed of staying in Berlin. Especially since the young one hadn't proved himself and didn't have a bunch of important jobs, but rather had just come out of exile after deserting his post, and was idle in Berlin.

It's also possible, since he died only 4 months into the war, that he was sick, Fredersdorf-style, and thus exempt from service, but since Lehndorff doesn't mention any long illnesses, I'm going to hope that 1) Fritz had him stay home to carry out his important responsibilities and *not die*, 2) he went quickly and painlessly in December.

Yes, I want to write fic about Peter and Fritz and their miscommunications, and in the early 1750s let them have a nice little chat that I'm sure never happened, and when the war comes, Peter stays home and doesn't feel bad about it this time, for a variety of reasons. I just need to decide whether he has kids or not.

Doing the math, Peter was engaged in 1742, and the passage about the cavalier is from 1765, so he could definitely have an adult son by the time. But the silence otherwise is odd.

So if Peter did die in Berlin at the end of December 1756, Fritz might, in fact, have been there - not at his death bed, presumably Lehndorff would have mentioned that, but he could have seen him.

<3 I hope so. I hope it was quick, and I hope he and Fritz got to see each other one last time. Thanks for this tidbit; I might make use of it!

SD is more often the Queen Mother than she is the Queen, but just to make your life more difficult, sometimes she is the Queen, too.

Argh. I had a feeling that would be the case. But okay, I'll assume it's EC that Frau v. Keith (whoever she is) and Lehndorff have dinner with.

To confuse things more, there is a different Lt. Col. v. Keith in 1750, who marries Suhm's daughter. There's also a Colonel Keith in 1770 whom Fritz and Maria Antonia chat about, and based on things Fritz says, I *think* that's the son of James Frances Edward Keith, brother of the more famous Earl Marischal, and the one who died at Hochkirch (after telling Fritz there was no *way* the Austrians weren't going to attack them at night in that exposed spot). I don't think the 1770 Col. Keith can be the same as the one who married Suhm's daughter, unless James is having kids much earlier than Wikipedia mentions.

So now we're up to 8? male Keiths, plus a female Keith née Knyphausen whose husband may or may not be Peter.

And *everybody* goes by their last name, because of course they do. ARGH.

Anyway, many thanks, subdetective

selenak!

Edited 2020-01-23 22:03 (UTC)

Frederick the Great discussion post 9

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Re: Andrew Hamilton: Rheinsberg

Re: Random things

Re: Happy Birthday, Heinrich!

Re: Katte family trees

Re: Fritz and Wilhelmine Correspondance, Trier Version - I: Greek myths and living Italians

Re: Fritz and Wilhelmine Correspondance, Trier Version II - OMG Voltaire!

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