This makes total sense to me! This may come out wrong, but I want to say something like, the more you guys say, the more it seems to me that FW and Fritz were both messed up but in ways that manifested differently. FW was more repressed and sort of inarticulately violent (...I mean, not that he couldn't speak, but he sort of reminds me of people I know who will never tell you the real reason they don't want you to do X, gaaaaah), and Fritz was, well, articulately and sometimes self-aware-ly awful to people :P :)

I think I have "potential endearing story about FW" on my list to reply to, but I'll just say it here and maybe repeat it when I get back to it: I think because of these differing ways I just find it really hard to relate to FW. Like, the good stories make me feel sorry for him, and I do feel like he needs a bunch of hugs from tall guys, but I'm just never going to feel about him the way I do about, say, Heinrich, who can be totally awful but is also actually endearing to me :)