Yuletide tags are out: Frederician version

[cahn]

Come join us in this crazy Frederick the Great fandom and learn more about all these crazy associated people, like the star-crossed and heartbreaking romance between Maria Theresia's daughter Maria Christina and her daughter-in-law Isabella, wow.

OK, so, there are FOURTEEN characters nominated:
Anna Karolina Orzelska (Frederician RPF)
Elisabeth Christine von Preußen | Elisabeth Christine Queen of Prussia (Frederician RPF)
Francesco Algarotti (Frederician RPF)
François-Marie Arouet | Voltaire (Frederician RPF)
Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great (Frederician RPF)
Hans Hermann Von Katte (Frederician RPF)
Joseph II Holy Roman Emperor (Frederician RPF)
Maria Theresia | Maria Theresa of Austria (Frederician RPF)
Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf (Frederician RPF)
Peter Karl Christoph von Keith (Frederician RPF)
Sophia Dorothea of Hanover (Frederician RPF)
Stanisław August Poniatowski (Frederician RPF)
Wilhelmine von Preußen | Wilhelmine of Prussia (1709-1758) (Frederician RPF)
Yekatarina II Alekseyevna | Catherine the Great of Russia (Frederician RPF)

This means some fourth person kindly nominated Algarotti and -- I think? -- Stanislaw August Poniatowski! YAY! Thank you fourth person! Come be our friend! :D Yuletide is so great!

I am definitely requesting Maria Theresia, Wilhelmine, and Fritz (Put them in a room together. Shake. How big is the explosion?), and thinking about Elisabeth Christine, but maybe not this year.

I am also declaring this post another Frederician post, as the last one was getting out of hand. I think I'll still use that one as the overall index to these, though, to keep all the links in one place.

(seriously, every time I think the wild stories are done there is ANOTHER one)

Comments

Re: FW and Voltaire are the reason we can't have nice things

[selenak]

Dorothea: yes, German wiki says she married a spice trader named Franz Heinrich Schommer and had six kids by him. She died in 1762, in Berlin, Behrensstraße.

Yes, Voltaire offering this play to Catherine, of all the people, was...special. This trailer, btw, for the Russian Catherine miniseries does a superb job of wanting me to watch said show and sum up her rise to power. (Oh, and the nominated Poniatowski also shows up, identified by name in the trailer.)

Re: FW and Voltaire are the reason we can't have nice things

[mildred_of_midgard]

I would be curious what you think, if you do watch it. I'm about halfway through the first season, mildly enjoying it so far. alley_skywalker, that Peter III fan who's always requesting Yuletide fic about him, has *opinions* about the show that are far more informed than my own.

Oh, I think when I very first heard about this show, although it didn't register with me at the time and it was only when I was looking for stuff about Peter that it registered on my radar, was in reference to Fritz's sexuality. Someone on tumblr had mentioned that Fritz showed up in two recent productions about Catherine, and someone else asked, "Being Russian productions, they probably ignore his sexuality?" "One does, the other has someone speculate that while Peter III was imitating his hero Fritz, maybe he picked up the sodomy vice as well." "...It's better when they ignore it."

Well, now that I've gotten to the episode where Elizabeth is concerned that Catherine is still a virgin and asked her advisors if maybe Fritz is indirectly to blame, I'm like, "Oh, *this* must be what that person was talking about, although those months ago."

I did remember Poniatowski's name flashing through the credits and wondered if the show (presumably in a later episode than I've gotten to) was what inspired someone to want fic about him, but why on earth he wasn't nominated in the already existing Ekaterina fandom, if not the 18th century Russian history fandom...we may never know. So far, you're the only one who's requested or offered (I assume) our Frederician fandom, although there's still several days to go.

requests and offers

[cahn]

~halfway through the signup period, selenak and I are the only ones (and she is the only one signed up for writing), but many people do sign up at the last minute, so we'll see...

Re: requests and offers

[mildred_of_midgard]

I'm sorry I fail at Yuletide! At least I'm co-authoring crackfic here (and that MT AU a while back) to entertain you. :D

Re: requests and offers

[mildred_of_midgard]

Looks like a third person requested, although they didn't offer (unless they made a bucket offer, which seems unlikely given the wide range of characters). I hope it's the person who requested Fritz 3 years running and didn't get it! No letter yet, so I can't tell.

ETA: The 3rd requester is not the person who got the 2 lovely Fritz/Katte fills last year. They've decided to go for Edward II/Piers Gaveston instead, which is a fine second choice as far as I'm concerned. ;) Also, I notice that only 1 person offered Fritz last year, and there were 2 fills, so maybe there's hope for extra treats this year. *rubs hands gleefully*

And I still want to know who the mystery Algarotti nominator is, omg! Come be our friend, nominator!

Re: requests and offers

[cahn]

Ooh! Well, all requests are going to come out Real Soon Now (as soon as assignments go out, I believe - SO GLAD yuletide made that change), so we'll find out :D

Re: requests and offers

[mildred_of_midgard]

True! Though we still may not find out who the nominator is, if they weren't a requester. I mean, it's not like someone is going to discover my role in nominating when requests go out. (I'm glad they made that change too, especially as a hopeful writer of treats.)

Re: requests and offers

[mildred_of_midgard]

Someone offered at the last minute! 3 requests and 2 offers at T - 6 hours.

I was wondering about our chances of an invisible bucket offer, and imagining what kind of guts it would take to offer any combination of characters. You'd probably have to trust your recipient not to be trolling you--some of these people weren't even alive at the same time!

And then I came up with this set of lists:

Birth
Sophia Dorothea of Hanover 1687
Voltaire 1694
Hans Hermann von Katte 1704
Anna Karolina Orzelska 1707
Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf 1708
Wilhelmine von Preußen 1709
Peter Karl Christoph von Keith 1711
Friedrich II von Preußen 1712
Francesco Algarotti 1712
Elisabeth Christine von Preußen 1715
Maria Theresia 1717
Catherine the Great of Russia 1729
Stanisław August Poniatowski 1732
Joseph II Holy Roman Emperor 1741

Death
Hans Hermann von Katte 1730
Peter Karl Christoph von Keith 1756
Sophia Dorothea of Hanover 1757
Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf 1758
Wilhelmine von Preußen 1758
Francesco Algarotti 1764
Anna Karolina Orzelska 1769
Voltaire 1778
Maria Theresia 1780
Friedrich II von Preußen 1786
Joseph II Holy Roman Emperor 1790
Catherine the Great of Russia 1796
Elisabeth Christine von Preußen 1797
Stanisław August Poniatowski 1798

Lifespan
Hans Hermann von Katte 26
Peter Karl Christoph von Keith 45
Joseph II Holy Roman Emperor 48
Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf 49
Wilhelmine von Preußen 49
Francesco Algarotti 51
Anna Karolina Orzelska 61
Maria Theresia 63
Stanisław August Poniatowski 66
Catherine the Great of Russia 67
Sophia Dorothea of Hanover 70
Friedrich II von Preußen 74
Elisabeth Christine von Preußen 81
Voltaire 83

P.S. I'm too sleep-deprived this weekend to do non-mechanical things, but I am thinking about our crackfic RP and have some notes. ;)

Re: requests and offers

[mildred_of_midgard]

A 4th requester at T - 7 minutes! We have 4 requests and 2 offers.

I selfishly hope one of the requesters is the one who asked for 3 years running 2015-2017, and the other is a Fritz/Katte request. :P But we shall soon find out!

ETA: Sign-ups closed! 4 requests and 2 offers.

Conveniently, we're going to need a new post soon, O Gracious Hostess. Maybe we can hold out until requests go public? I can't believe we hit 300 comments (I mean, we haven't, but we will) in just 2 weeks. I haven't even gotten to my promised Chronology of Fritz's Emotional Isolation comment yet! (It's in draft form. I take no responsibility for my crazy. :P)

Re: requests and offers

[cahn]

We've hit 300 now that I'm actually able to reply to everyone's comments :P I'd expect requests to go public in the next couple of days, a good chance even of today, so, yes, let's wait until then :)

ETA: Four requests and 2 offers!! *high-five* SUCCESS!

ETA2: I was reminded that if you end up writing a pinch hit, there is a post that goes up later on with links to requests from pinch hitters. So if one of those four requests goes up on the pinch hit list and you grab it (Yuletide pinch hits go REALLY FAST, especially at the beginning), you may have a chance to upload a request (and at that point you aren't affected by needing four or anything).

Re: requests and offers

[mildred_of_midgard]

ZOMG, I woke up to 11 comment notifications! It was like Christmas!

Re pinch hitting, that's true. I was thinking more in terms of treats, because if that person doesn't sign up again (I checked and they didn't last year), or doesn't request Fritz, than any treats have to go to the NYR collection, which is less exciting. But I'm sure they'd still be happy to receive a NYR treat. :D

We'll find out soon!

Re: requests and offers

[cahn]

LOL, I have been feeling like this (look at all these comment notifications! it's like Christmas!) pretty much every day for the last couple of months :D

Yeah, it looks like that person will be an NYR. But I'm sure they will be happy to receive it! :D And you have a couple of months to think of some Fritz/Voltaire

Re: requests and offers

[mildred_of_midgard]

Hahaha, I'm glad. Today I woke up to *13* comments! :D

Yeah, it looks like they didn't participate in Yuletide this year or last year. NYR it is, then! Hush your mouth, my list of potential treats is already WAY too long! Also, my concentration has been *shot* this week. I open a file, stare at it, cry, and close it.

Re: requests and offers

[mildred_of_midgard]

Also, I was looking at your old Tillerman posts, and for a moment I was convinced I had the wrong ones, because the comment counts were so low and I remembered (what felt like) a lot of discussion! Haha, the bar has been raised. 27 comments? Surely you mean 270!

Re: requests and offers

[cahn]

Hee! Yeah, I am just... kind of amazed by this whole thing! I feel like if it were any two of us it would have died after "a lot of discussion" possibly meaning tens of comments, but somehow there is some magic alchemy here :D

Re: requests and offers

[cahn]

Yes, I've got in both my official request and letter that I only expect all three characters to be mentioned, because in half the prompts they're not actually all alive!

Re: FW and Voltaire are the reason we can't have nice things

[mildred_of_midgard]

Oh, hah, look at me not clicking on the link until now. *Different* Russian Catherine miniseries, lol.

Anyway, in the one I'm watching, Poniatowski just showed up. In his first thirty or so seconds, he's managed to be young and good-looking, avert a diplomatic crisis during Elizabeth's declaration of war on Prussia, snark at the Prussian ambassador, and wink at Catherine. It was an eventful intro, is what I'm saying. (Peter the not yet III is looking unhappy in the background, as well he might.)

Will keep an eye out for potential Frederician fic prompts re Poniatowski. The Seven Years' War has just begun.

Re: FW and Voltaire are the reason we can't have nice things

[mildred_of_midgard]

Lool, one thing I love about this show is the number of times I can predict what's coming because people are so in character with their historical selves.

Fritz: *is playing the flute*
Official: *approaches*
Me: Don't interrupt him!
Official: Your Majesty, an urgent message. Russia has declared war on Prussia!
Fritz: I told you not to disturb me with trifles when I'm playing.
Me: Told you!
Official: *huge OMGWTF look*
Me: No, but seriously, official dude, that was predictable.

Mind you, I experienced this a couple days ago with an actualfax biography, of one of his generals.

Fritz: *gets thrown by his horse during a military review*
Me: Pretty sure the right move now is everyone pretend nothing happened.
Me: *waits for the explosion when someone ignores my advice*
New guy: OMG, should we call the surgeon? Surely we should we go help him!
General Seydlitz: No. We pretend nothing happened.
New guy: But what if he's injured?! We can't just leave the King lying on the ground, that's not a thing!
General Seydlitz: No, see, he's getting up. He's fine. He won't thank us for going over there.
New guy: Okay, but...should we bring him another horse? His seems to have run away.
General Seydlitz: Look at the experienced general on the horse next to him. Observe how he is pretending nothing happened. Observe how there is a unanimous conspiracy of LALALA NOTHING TO SEE HERE going on. Capiche?
Fritz: *stands on the ground watching the review through his spyglass*
Everyone: *looks the other way*
15 minutes later...
Some guy: *finally brings Fritz his runaway horse so he can get back on*
General Seydlitz: You have now been inducted into Fritz's army, New Guy. I hope you were paying attention.
Me: Wow, people who had to live with Fritz actually knew him as well as I do! At least some of them, some of the time.

(I wasn't actually expecting them to pretend nothing happened, because so many times I read anecdotes where people don't, and it ends badly, which is how I formed my opinion about what the right move would be--well, that plus a smidgen of neuropsychology. I was tickled pink to see it actually work out when tried.)

Re: FW and Voltaire are the reason we can't have nice things

[cahn]

ahahahaha, it's always great when one's reactions line up with canon line up with the fanfic (fan video?) of the canon :D

Re: FW and Voltaire are the reason we can't have nice things

[mildred_of_midgard]

It was independent confirmation that all my Fritz psychologizing is at least somewhat on target and I actually do have some insights into what went on inside his brain!