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cahn ([personal profile] cahn) wrote2019-09-18 01:20 pm

Frederick the Great post links

More Frederick the Great (henceforth "Fritz") and surrounding spinoffs history! Clearly my purpose in life is now revealed: it is to encourage [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard and [personal profile] selenak to talk to me about Frederick the Great and associated/tangential European history. I am having such a great time here! Collating some links in this post:

* selenak's post on Frederick the Great as a TV show with associated fandom; a great place to start for the general history

* I have given up indexing all posts, here is the tag of discussion posts. Someday when I actually have time maybe I'll do a "best of."


Some links that have come up in the course of this discussion (and which I am putting here partially for my own benefit because in particular I haven't had time to watch the movies because still mainlining Nirvana in Fire):
Fritz' sister Wilhelmine's tell-all tabloidy memoirs (English translation); this is Part I; the text options have been imperfectly OCR'd so be aware of that (NOTE 11-6-19: THIS IS A BOWDLERIZED TEXT, I WILL COME BACK WITH A BETTER LINK)
Part II of Wilhelmine's memoirs (English translation)
A dramatization of Frederick the Great's story, English subtitles
Mein Name ist Bach, Movie of Frederick the Great and J.S. Bach, with subtitles Some discussion of the subtitles in the thread here (also scroll down)
2017 miniseries about Maria Theresia, with subtitles and better translation of one scene in comments

ETA:
Miniseries of Peter the Great, IN ENGLISH, apparently reasonably historically solid
ETA 10-22-19
Website with letters from and to Wilhelmine during her 1754/1755 journey through France and Italy, as well as a few letters about Wilhelmine, in the original French, in a German translation, and in facsimile
University of Trier site where the full works of Friedrich in the original French and German have been transcribed, digitized, and uploaded:
30 volumes of writings and personal correspondence
46 volumes of political correspondence
Fritz and Wilhelmine's correspondence (vol 27_1)
ETA 10-28-19
Der Thronfolger (German, no subtitles; explanation of action in the comment here)
ETA 11-6-19
Memoirs of Stanisław August Poniatowski, dual Polish and French translation
ETA 1-14-20
Our Royal Librarian Mildred has collated some documentation, including google translate versions of the Trier letters above (see the "Correspondence" folder)!
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Re: speaking of musical relationships....

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2019-10-12 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, are you saying that you didn't realize it was real even after both of us had independently mentioned it to you, not just after my original long-ago allusion to this anecdote? That's hilarious. (I mean, since mine was long ago and in strikethrough and in a very unrelated discussion*, I can imagine you had long since forgotten about it by the time we got to Elisabeth Mara, but...Oh, Fritz.)

* Which also contains an allusion to the suckiest condolence letter of all times.

Also, [personal profile] selenak, that also contains a reference to the Heinrich-Friedrich-Marwitz (different Marwitz) lust triangle, and I am dying to know if you know the story behind that, because I've read contradictory versions from sources I don't trust. And also, the name Marwitz spells bad news for the Hohenzollern siblings in their love and sex lives, apparently.