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This is totally too good to keep to myself: on my "I showed my family opera clips" post,
mildred_of_midgard and
selenak are talking about Frederick the Great (by way of Don Carlo, of course) and it is like this amazing virtuoso spontaneous thing and whoa
Things I knew about Frederick the Great before a year ago: he was king of... Prussia??
Additional things I knew about Frederick the Great before the last couple of days:
selenak informed me last year that he and his dad may well have been at least somewhat the inspiration for Schiller's Don Carlos, and everything that goes with that: his dad (Friedrich Wilhelm, henceforth FW) was majorly awful, he had a boyfriend (Katte) who was horribly killed by his dad
Only a partial list of the additional things I now know about Frederick the Great (henceforth "Fritz") and associated historical figures due to mildred and selenak:
-Fritz and Katte's escape plan (which resulted in Katte's execution) was... really, really boneheaded. As boneheaded as opera plots! :P
-Katte was in the process of destroying 1,500 letters when he got caught (! puts all those letters in Don Carlos into perspective) (ETA: but also see mildred's comment below)
-Fritz wrote opera libretti and so did his sister
-Fritz decided to use himself as an experimental test subject to see if it was entirely possible to do without sleep via the application of coffee WITH PEPPERCORNS AND MUSTARD
-Fritz wrote a poem about orgasm that also reads as if he's never actually, like, had sex (although that was not in this post, it was in the comments to this one)
-FW apparently beat up George II when they were kids
-I am totally not even going to try to summarize the discussion about FW's "rationalized sadism" and sexual hangups and the reeeeeally bizarre Dresden interlude (go down a couple of comments for the really insane stuff)
-Fritz' sister Wilhemina wrote tell-all memoirs about her totally insane family which I am SUPER going to read now, watch this space
Also, there is apparently some subplot involving Russian fanboys that introduces an entirely new cast of people which I am dying to find out about
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Things I knew about Frederick the Great before a year ago: he was king of... Prussia??
Additional things I knew about Frederick the Great before the last couple of days:
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Only a partial list of the additional things I now know about Frederick the Great (henceforth "Fritz") and associated historical figures due to mildred and selenak:
-Fritz and Katte's escape plan (which resulted in Katte's execution) was... really, really boneheaded. As boneheaded as opera plots! :P
-Katte was in the process of destroying 1,500 letters when he got caught (! puts all those letters in Don Carlos into perspective) (ETA: but also see mildred's comment below)
-Fritz wrote opera libretti and so did his sister
-Fritz decided to use himself as an experimental test subject to see if it was entirely possible to do without sleep via the application of coffee WITH PEPPERCORNS AND MUSTARD
-Fritz wrote a poem about orgasm that also reads as if he's never actually, like, had sex (although that was not in this post, it was in the comments to this one)
-FW apparently beat up George II when they were kids
-I am totally not even going to try to summarize the discussion about FW's "rationalized sadism" and sexual hangups and the reeeeeally bizarre Dresden interlude (go down a couple of comments for the really insane stuff)
-Fritz' sister Wilhemina wrote tell-all memoirs about her totally insane family which I am SUPER going to read now, watch this space
Also, there is apparently some subplot involving Russian fanboys that introduces an entirely new cast of people which I am dying to find out about
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OTOH: he did mediate between Fritz and FW post-Katte. (He also ensured Fritz, who was deeply in debt, would get bribe money from the Austrian court, from the very same Eugen mentioned above. Not that this stopped Fritz invading later, but hey.) And he was extremely helpful to FW in restructuring Prussia and giving it a modern Administration. Presumably, he thought that nearly killing your successor is a really bad idea and not good for the state, and did recognize Fritz might make a good monarch?
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Context: Teenaged and twenty-something bookworm Fritz had to buy his own books (and art and music and such), and no sooner did he buy them than his father found out and got rid of them. (Advanced readers may know that it's more complicated, but this is the entertainment version of history.)
What collateral do you have when you're a penniless crown prince who's not in good graces with the reigning king, trying to borrow from other courts? Well, you have "When I'm king, I'll remember your country with the same gratitude that I remember every other country in Europe that I'm currently using this line on, which will primarily be called the War of the Austrian Succession and then the Seven Years' War, 'cause by then I'll have that treasury of Dad's that I've currently got my eye on, but as long as I only feed you all the first part of this sentence for now, it's all good, right?"
He used to pull this on his wife, too. "Look, I didn't ask to have you or my dad in my life, but I need books to live, and *you're* in his good graces, so *you* get your hands on some money and pass it on to me, k?"
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