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cahn ([personal profile] cahn) wrote2019-08-20 09:52 am

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This is totally too good to keep to myself: on my "I showed my family opera clips" post, [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard and [personal profile] selenak are talking about Frederick the Great (by way of Don Carlo, of course) and it is like this amazing virtuoso spontaneous thing and whoa

Things I knew about Frederick the Great before a year ago: he was king of... Prussia??

Additional things I knew about Frederick the Great before the last couple of days: [personal profile] selenak informed me last year that he and his dad may well have been at least somewhat the inspiration for Schiller's Don Carlos, and everything that goes with that: his dad (Friedrich Wilhelm, henceforth FW) was majorly awful, he had a boyfriend (Katte) who was horribly killed by his dad

Only a partial list of the additional things I now know about Frederick the Great (henceforth "Fritz") and associated historical figures due to mildred and selenak:
-Fritz and Katte's escape plan (which resulted in Katte's execution) was... really, really boneheaded. As boneheaded as opera plots! :P
-Katte was in the process of destroying 1,500 letters when he got caught (! puts all those letters in Don Carlos into perspective) (ETA: but also see mildred's comment below)
-Fritz wrote opera libretti and so did his sister
-Fritz decided to use himself as an experimental test subject to see if it was entirely possible to do without sleep via the application of coffee WITH PEPPERCORNS AND MUSTARD
-Fritz wrote a poem about orgasm that also reads as if he's never actually, like, had sex (although that was not in this post, it was in the comments to this one)
-FW apparently beat up George II when they were kids
-I am totally not even going to try to summarize the discussion about FW's "rationalized sadism" and sexual hangups and the reeeeeally bizarre Dresden interlude (go down a couple of comments for the really insane stuff)
-Fritz' sister Wilhemina wrote tell-all memoirs about her totally insane family which I am SUPER going to read now, watch this space

Also, there is apparently some subplot involving Russian fanboys that introduces an entirely new cast of people which I am dying to find out about
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Re: Nancy MItford II

[personal profile] selenak 2019-08-25 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there's a reason why it's considered a classic.:) Mind you, Waugh has been breakig Slash fans' hearts since generations by letting the m/m couple break up mid book, never to reunite again as a couple (though there's one more time Charles sees Sebastian, gone to seed and drunkenness in Morocco), with one half of said couple first marrying, then falling for his previous boyfriend's alsao married sister. The prose is gorgeous, Waugh at his best, but just about 99% of the readers disagreed with him with who the main pairing of his novel is.