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cahn ([personal profile] cahn) wrote 2019-08-28 04:26 pm (UTC)

Haha, yeah, I wouldn't have noticed that before taking singing lessons. But now I know how hard it is to sing even when one is upright, much less in odd contorted positions. And I'd think at that angle you're stressing the same abdominal muscles you use to sing!

[NOTE: I wrote the rest of this comment while on a plane (yes, I have this version of Don Carlo offline to reference :P) and before [personal profile] iberiandoctor pointed out that Hampson/Alagna is a much better Fritz/Katte reference. I have also fixed that comment, by the way, to link you to the death scene in that one:
link to comment: https://cahn.dreamwidth.org/158748.html?thread=1018652#cmt1018652
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eIhYz4DgIj4YhJdwRo8aBpKqHkJja1BZ
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I didn't have time when writing the last comment to point you to other Posa parts but I'm going to now, because if you think of Rodrigo, Marquis de Posa as Katte and Carlo as Fritz I think you'll enjoy these too. (If not, then of course you don't have to watch it :) ) Same link as parented up: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hCf6wiMZgqYf-2LrvSqO9AsAt0R_0H0a

-Early on, Rodrigo and Carlo sing a duet affirming their friendship ("Dieu, tu semas dans nos âmes" / "Dio, che nell'alma infondere"). This is widely regarded in Don Carlo fandom as a love duet :P (I really like friendships in my fandoms and therefore I was probably the only person who didn't emphatically ship them, but now that I know about the Katte reference I see it's more of a canon ship than I thought...) 36:21 to 44:32. (Notes on this: 1. See Simon run! It's kind of amazing to actually run onto stage and then sing, not too many singers can manage this, but he does this all the time. Showoff :D (I'm really joking here. I saw Keenlyside give a masterclass last year and he was the nicest person ever.) 2. Look at his reaction when Carlo says he's in love with the Queen (okay, fine, they couldn't make this ALL Frederick/Katte), lol. He's been asked to make this shippy! 3. I have another video of this same staging with Keenlyside (though a different Carlo) and he plays it a little gentler; this Rodrigo is a little more soldierly and aggressive. Not sure how you envision Katte, although I (who know not much about him besides what you guys have told me) think of him as a little gentler than Keenlyside plays Rodrigo here. I can of course find that one for you as well :P This one is better though as a first introduction to Don Carlo because the videography is SO much better than the other one that it's clearly very exciting even if you don't care about the music, which you don't.)

-Here's where Posa takes Carlo's letters. You don't have to watch the trio preceding (where he gets into a scuffle with the Princess Eboli), although I like it too because Rodrigo's all "I keep having to get my boy Carlo out of trouble!" I just really like how the letters bit is staged in this version --

I'll have to give you some background here, as this is similar to but differs from the Schiller [personal profile] selenak and I have discussed previously. In the opera (second act, ~1:35:30) Carlo has gotten a note to meet him at the garden at night. He is in love with the Queen so assumes she has written the note. It was actually written by the Princess Eboli, who is in love with Carlo. (Carlo is kind of a failboat, if we didn't make this clear before.) Carlo meets this veiled lady -- in a scene which I believe is cut in revision (and is certainly cut in this production), it is clear that Eboli is wearing the Queen's veil so as to maximize plot confusion -- and gets all excited until he realizes it's Eboli, at which point he tries to put her off (even though Eboli points out she can help him, that he's in danger, that Posa and the King have been talking about him...). Eboli, meanwhile, because of the veil, realizes he must be in love with the Queen!

At this point Rodrigo who is apparently stalking Carlo in the evenings because his boyfriend jumps in (1:39:22 will give you a little of the flavor before the trio plus trio, but if you don't want to listen to the trio read on) and threatens Eboli if she tells everyone that Carlo is in love with the Queen; he almost stabs her at one point (but Carlo prevents him). Notably, he also threatens her with being the favorite of the King, which Carlo hears and is taken aback by, thus his reaction in -- and finally this is the place for Carlo/Rodrigo interaction -- 1:46:07 to end of act at 1:48:10.

(You may not notice, but the tune that plays at the end of this bit is the same as in the "love duet." This tune also comes back in the middle of Rodrigo's death scene, although when I watch it I'm always so emotional that I never really notice.)

-Also, auto-da-fe in this version, still sad pandas although out of context I like the first clip I showed you better. But this one has a swordfight! Here: 2:04:24 to 2:07:19, although rewinding a couple of minutes will show you the Flanders delegation and everything just ramping up. (Posa's shellshocked face as they take Carlo away, omg.)

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